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Monday, March 31, 2008

Ober Gee Kuhn Brown Ruth the LIGHT SHINETH on

WOW !! No wonder I have been getting my ass kicked so soundly by other New York gangsters. It was going on BEFORE I blogged Jason Kuhn but got a wee more intense in the weeks subsequent to those posts.....

Huh, what's a NEW YORK CITY LAWYER doing owning such a prime spot of Kennedy Blvd, you might even ask. Why, the Tampa Tribune would be PROUD to tell you that we should be PROUD to be known as 'little new york.' LOL. And, soon all of the city will STINK like Bayshore. Only most of them didn't BUY the property ...nope. They THIEVED IT. Attempted murder or murder, you know ------ 110, 220 whatever it takes.

Anyway ...

Little did I KNOW that lil Jason Kuhn who (ILLEGALLY) gave Julie Brown THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS is a former NEW YORK LAWYER now a car dealer trying to BUY THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.

Thank you to Daniel Ruth.

This makes TWO ATTORNEYS. One who ILLEGALLY RECEIVED and one who ILLEGALLY PROFFERED THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS. TWO ATTORNEYS. One, of course, an attorney for the City of Pampa so that's kinda par for the course. LOL. ******Selfish pigs. there was enough to go around. You just want to divvy up MY SHARE.
If you like, I will explain to you very VERY slowly and perhaps you can for god's sake CATCH ON why it IS that you LOST. Yes, you did. YOU LOST. ******

BUT, who let Jason Kuhn OFF THE HOOK???? Mark Ober and Wayne Chalu. (Tampa State's Attorneys, you know the same type who stalk me in TO MY GYM and talk loudly of the many ways a person WILL DIE and they know everyone in Tampa EVERYONE, yeah them)That's link to Wayne Garcia's article but Daniel Ruth's is a MUST READ (first link).

Now, if Jason had committed a MURDER that would have been pretty much the same treatment. In fact, I bet if we were to look at the Ober/Ober (prosecutor AND judge) connection and all the other state's attorneys thus associated currently we'd find some SUFFERING but NOT ANY REPUBLICANS for BUSH AND OBER AND GEE. Would we? No. We wouldn't.
What we would find would be SELECTIVE BUSTING AND PROSECUTION. They can't win fairly. Why bother? They can get away with the other way ! WHY?? Because YOU let them.

First of all, what this lil post was GOING to be about was how much Hillsborough Sheriff David Gee is worth (don't forget he's just getting started, eh?LOL!!!!)... BUT, in looking for the contributions to Mark Ober I stumbled across Daniel Ruth's column and the BIG BOLD LIGHT OF DAY pointed hard at Jason Kuhn, New York, Tampa and Julie Brown, Tampa again .... huh. And the threats to sue an innocent bunch of bloggers over revealing the truth. (ms. brown who is almost related to me why god why?) became clear as to WHY that was so upsetting. Lots of money changing hands. She didn't offer ME any. Damn.

So, holy shit.... like everything else I seem to know instinctively .... this is just MORE. MORE MORE.

Hey --- wonder what Jason has to do with Hummer Limo?

I'm thinking I should FIND OUT. Because THAT New York dude got himself a LIMO LICENSE here in Tampa FL and that is supposed to be VERY HARD TO DO. huh. Like the ambulance licenses. Huh.

AND, also, I have it on good word that he's a property-grabber. All kindsa intimidating. Course it was his cuz in crime what told me that. Yeah .. ... she sho did, hon. Told me all about yer girl. You shouldn't be trying to be scaring people. Some don't react as you expect them to. As YOU obviously did. Any MAN who will ride around in his stupid fucking plastic car vroom vrooming instead of getting his ass OUT and having a conversation... well, you can go on with YOUR program and I will continue to find you remiss in skills. YOU are NOT the leader and I am well over your head but go ahead with your sideshow, hon. DOG THIEF. Any old hoooooo ... yer cuz done turned all over on you. But, you'll figure that out soon enough. White trash with cash. Or whatever... it's sad. You're sad. You're also done.

Thought I'd just throw that out there for the slow seats.
I've been knowing this for a long time.

Got a few connections of my own.

He's got a few grid captains, too. They're white. And not. They've earned badges. Or bikes. Or ride tickets. Maybe the AIDS by the look of them. (sorry but have them spray toxin around your kids for awhile then YOU talk nice about them)

Anyway ... WOW.

I dn't HAVE TIME FOR THIS RIGHT NOW. But .... how much IS sheriff Gee worth???

Because, I accidentally discovered while RUNNIN down a dream that EVERY cop involved in stalking me owns about a half mill to a mill worth of property in South Tampa. Huh. (or WILL)

Now we all know.

Little wonder they do what they're told.

Little wonder who their friends are.

Hey, Mr. X. (ya didn't know that about yer cuz, didya? LOL .... keep tryin to tell ya)


OH, the reason why I was looking for how much Sheriff Gee is worth is because the St Pete Times had a VERY revealing article on Charlie Wells, recently retired sheriff of Manatee County who is worth EIGHT MILLION POINT EIGHT DOLLARS> Solely due to the little woman's real-estate acumen.

Now, I WONDER ... did THAT sheriff, Charlie Wells, have his men and his dumptruck developer friends RUN CITIZENS WHO OWN VALUABLE PROPERTY OFF THE INTERSTATE ON VIDEOTAPE???

Because you KNOW that Sheriff Gee and ALLL of the Florida county (AND OTHER STATES') sheriffs know each other because when anything goes down over to the jail they are always conveniently AWAY at these sheriff association meetups. So, probably, Charlie showed him how it's done, you thinK????

When you're done LAUGHING or raging, both I hope, --- guess WHO got RECENTLY RETIRED sheriff Wells off the hook from the investigation over just WHERE all that money CAME FROM on a civil servant's salary??

IF you guessed Mark Ober, again, YOU would be CORRECT. The timing, you see?? Any one else find it interesting that the investigation was started to dovetail with Ober getting 'elected' (pam????? BUDDY????) and the whole fricking can of worms being tossed over into the already PUTRID Tampa Bay???

The noose tightens.

Since I'm talking about whites and latinos, is that racist to use the fucking word, NOOSE????

Just wanna do MY part in correcting the conversation.

ERACISM: ALL COLORS WITH LOVE AND RESPECT.

Here's another little tidbit for you. It's NOT just the tampa tribune. WHITE SHERIFFS are DRIVING RACISM.

What they talk about with white folks is how we're going to be having race wars.

Black folks: Do they feed YOU the same line of bullshit??

Just curious.

Because, I KNOW you do not hate 'as a people'.
You hate because you were taught it OR learned it. But no one is BORN hating. Nope. Doesn't happen.

It works for the fucking govmint and especially the sheriffs who are the long arms of the nazi in the white house to divide us.

DIVIDED WE FALL.

how does that NOT work for them???

Oprah and Obama and DONNA (quit your job NOW, donna, you promised) STOP DRIVING THE O TRAIN OF RACISM.





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Tampa Trib RACIST against the truth

I'm going to bring up the REAL ISSUE of racism in this country once and for ALL. It's THE TRUTH.

Black folks and white folks seem to be racist against the TRUTH.

See my previous post on the apparent misconception of what the MSM is all about.

AND, read this. Such BULLSHIT. I could pick that article apart almost word for word but why bother? If you're still reading here, obviously you are of above-average intellect OR you're scared shitless what I will say next and you'll send your Grandpa out to say your name twenty times in my ear. (gotta call pam gotta call pam gotta call pam gotta call pam cause of course, an innocent looking grandma and grandpa wouldn't be UP to anything >>>>> because of course they never get shot dead cause they're still pushing meth into their nineties_ LOL next time send some of that awesome spaghetti sauce you used to give my family, eh?_ I know you're in a hard spot ... you seem to be the only ones who haven't figured it out yet. Save your pennies because I WANT THEM) speaking of which .. EVERY COP that stalks me has at least a HALF MILLION TO A MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF PROPERTY IN SOUTH TAMPA. Little wonder they do what they are told, huh???

Is it any accident that the propaganda machine is driving racism while Oprah and Obama are driving the other trains of lies??

Because I'm really GETTING TIRED OF IT.
I'm sorry folks. If Obama came to Tampa and ran for Mayor and Oprah was NOT his buddy by now they would have uncovered MORE NASTY about this man than it would be possible to commit in a lifetime. Which is WHY it became very obvious that he is surrounded by spin. AND, really intelligent people (some with a sad agenda) are falling for it.

Here's all the comments.

When they apologize to the descendants of the white slaves then I will STFU which is what I deleted from my comment.

Mr. Urbanski, I DEMAND that you fight back. You were SET UP, dude. It's really OBVIOUS to ME, why don't YOU see it???

They needed your dad outta there. Believe it.


Posted by ( RRR ) on March 30, 2008 at 6:45 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Equality is paramount to a successful America. All races/ethnic backgrounds must embrace going forward a sense of unity of all types of backgrounds to achieve America's common goals. If you do not think of yourself as an American first then you missed the point. If you are unhappy about something that happened yesterday and are not focused on the future then you are indeed destined to always live in the past. Don't be disenfranchised as some people would have you to blame anyone for past issues, work hand in hand with all creeds to achieve great goals. Move forward and do not allow the vocal minority of haters to influence your future.
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Posted by ( NEDLY ) on March 30, 2008 at 6:46 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Wow how one sided is this article? Only white people are racists? Is that what I really read? So many references of what white people said? Why can't we all just get along? You will never get rid of the problem and yes it is a problem. Not everyone is going to like another for some reason, whether it be race, whether your poor, whether your rich. Maybe you have a medicl condition. Its the same as not everyone like dogs or cats. There is to much jealousy in this world also. There is also going to be compitition of who is better just like in sports. Until everyone is modeled to be the same like robots it will never change. It may get better, it may get worst but never perfect.
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Posted by ( SKR ) on March 30, 2008 at 7:49 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Nedley, You are correct! These articles are always one-sided. I have to wonder why the writer didn't show a picture of the six young white people in Wichita, Kansas, five were murdered and a sixth left for dead and in a snow covered field. This was a hate crime against white people... how do I know that? The one person that was left for dead, lived and told exactly what was said and what happened to her and her friends in December of 2000. Google the names of Jonathan and Reginald Carr and see what you find!
As I a racist? No! I don't look at someone's color to determine how I feel about them. However... I do get sick of this one-sided attack againt the white race and I am sick to death of black people playing the race card on every turn. When I see so many black men and women making mega bucks playing sports, (blacks far out number whites in most sports these days). One has to wonder... what do these people want? Florida said it was sorry about slavery... but then someone went on to say that we all had a long way to go to heal the old wounds. That tells me nothing anyone does will ever be enough. These people don't want to move on, why would they? Placing guilt on people, that had nothing to do with slavery, seems to be working. But how can they expect people to respect them when we are all tired of them using that worn out old race card that doesn't exist anymore!
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Posted by ( flarrfan ) on March 30, 2008 at 7:57 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
"Only white people are racists?"
Correct...you can not be "racist" unless you have power. Members of minority groups without power can be (and often are) "prejudiced," but they cannot by definition be "racist." For you sheeple, you may now ignore this factual statement and resume your Hannity and Limbaugh parroting on this issue, so you can continue rationalizing your political and social views based on your own prejudices.
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Posted by ( midClassMale ) on March 30, 2008 at 8:05 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Wow SKR !!! I went to the www WichitaMassacre dot com site. If that had been 4 african dead, it would have been on the news for months!!!!
I believe that africans HATE non-africans, especially Caucasians. They also believe they are owed something from non-africans because of slavery. Guess what? I, as a proud Caucasian male of German descent, OWE YOU NOTHING !!! I WILL FIGHT AND GLADLY DIE BEFORE PAYING YOU ONE BLOODY PENNY !!!! Race "relations" will not improve until africans stop blaming others for their failure.
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Posted by ( SKR ) on March 30, 2008 at 8:14 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
midClassMale: Right-on! It seems to be acceptable to be proud to be black, hispanic or any other race... but don't you dare be proud of your race if you are white! Until all races start to respect one another... (and that is a two way street), we are only spinning in circles. I wish for once, someone in the media would tell us the stats for black on white crime, vs white on black crimes. But that will never happen! Take the Jena Six for example, God help all of us white people had that been white people beating up a black person. Also I don't remember Je$$e or Al saying they are sorry for their remarks about the boys at Duke!
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Posted by ( JackNelsonSteward ) on March 30, 2008 at 8:26 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
And you can see must how quickly even a calm conversation about it spirals down into charges and counter charges about fairness and accountabiity for previous wrongs.
Racism, as I have said in other places, is racism (at the risk of being tedious) is racism. No one has a franchise on it. A black person can be just as racist as a white person as a yellow person as a GREEN person. If racists come into power, they use the power. It is possible to have whole governments with racist policies. We did.
Let's stop with the nonsense of shaving meanings. My racism is just like yours it just points at different people.
Discrimination?
You must discriminate to survive. If you don't discriminate between one kind of food and another, you die. Discrimination is not a word tied only to racial or ethnic or sexual or (whatever) meanings. We have come to use it in a very narrow and, subesquently, inaccurate way. There is no such thing as "reverse discrimination. If you are discriminating against someone because they are black, that's discrimination. If you are discriminating against someone because they are white, that's discrimination.
The "reverse" of discrimination is impartiality.
There is no conversation in this country more necessary than this one and no conversation in this country that is more difficult and upsetting. The feelings of rage and guilt and the defensiveness and the insistance have such huge emotional charges behind them that the smallest comment or gesture can spark an explosion.
Yet, we MUST find a way to have the conversation. It is like being in a family where a crime has been committed among the members and no one will talk about it.
There is little to add balance to the conversation. It isn't about determining who was the victim and who wasn't. Those historical facts aren't in question.
The question is: Will we ever have the courage to start, the compassion and determination to continue and the stamina to complete the conversation about this that heals it?
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Posted by ( RobKay ) on March 30, 2008 at 9:18 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
I believe the problem of racism, particularly in America is not so much a problem in it self as it is an indicator of a bigger problem in our human nature. Groups of people of the same race can live their lives in the same community and some of them will feel that they suffered at the hands of racism and some will think that racism is a thing of the past. The problem exists because of our own perception of how we were treated, not because of how we were treated. There are people who bend over backwards to be politically correct (to the point of being rediculous) and it serves no purpose because it does nothing to change the way individuals percieve the way they think they are being treated. Look at the previous posts complaining because they think as whites, they are being blamed for racism. The problem wasn't the way the article was written, it was the way they percieved it. Lets face it folks, as long as it is easier to blame someone else for our problems instead of owning up to them, everyone is going to use racism as an excuse rather than blaming themselves for their situation in life. There is absolutly no way to stop people from feeling sorry for themselves and blaming others for it. All you could concievabley do to prevent this from being called racism is to confront these people with the knowledge that they have no one to blame but themselves. These silly attempts at being politically correct only serve to strengthen their erronius position that somehow someone else is to blame for the way they feel about themselves. And this is not racist because people of every race are guilty of doing exactly the same thing. It is called human nature - and we are still letting it get the better of us.
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Posted by ( Bonsai ) on March 30, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
SKR - well said!
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Posted by ( catherwood ) on March 30, 2008 at 10:23 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
One of the huge disconnects associated with this whole idea of inclusion and racial harmony is that many white people and many black people want to live segregated lives. They don't necessarily have racial prejudices and have no desire to persecute or otherwise malign the other races by excluding them from society as a whole. But, many people do want to be left alone with folks of their own kind. For example, how many black people do you know who consider the The Reverend Jeremiah Wright to be a sapient leader who has a vision for the future which offers a better life?; how many white people do you know who consider the Reverend as divisive, dangerous and borderline insane? Herein lies the real problem. The two races have completely different and very conflicting views of what is good and what is bad. I don't think there is anything that can change that; it's the way it is. The more we try and force one side or the other to integrate, the more friction we create. People just want to be left alone to go their own way and run their lives the way they see fit. They don't want to be told what to do and with whom they should do it. If you don't believe there is some truth to this, go to any secondary public school and check out the cafeteria at lunch time. All the Asians sit with their Asian friends, all the blacks sit with their black friends and all the whites sit with their white friends. No one tells them to do that and the kids themselves see nothing wrong with their voluntary segregation. They like it that way and would resent anyone telling them to all mix together for the sake of political correctness and some vague perception about what should and should not be.
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Posted by ( Bonsai ) on March 30, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
So Robkay - if we whites "perceived" it that way it must be because that's what we're facing on a daily basis. It's always "whities" fault. Please let me remind our black brothers and sisters that as there were whites enslaving blacks there were blacks enslaving blacks. Good reference here" http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/africa/features/storyofafrica/9chapter2.shtml
My "people" never had slaves. I owe nothing to anyone. I needed help many years ago and applied for assistance "welfare". I had a child to raise and not many prospects for a good job (I was a waitress). I was told two things by the black woman who was running the county welfare office; 1. I made too much money ($35.00 a week plus tips) and 2. "you're not black". Yes folks, she said that to me. Ever since that day I hold NO pity for anyone of color who uses the "woe is me" attitude towards the rest of the country. I got myself together and I made it out of my predicament. I and my son did just fine. As for blacks, I hold no love for anyone of them that uses the race card to get what they want. I see it all too often. I've worked with blacks who use it all too often to get out of work. I'm sick of American history being re-written because a book or a song is offensive to one particular group. Too damned bad. Suwanee is part of Americana. Leave it alone. Uncle Tom's Cabin is part of Americana. Leave it alone. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn is part of Americana. Leave it alone. The Color Purple for crying out loud. Alice Walker who wrote it is black. Do I sound bitter? I guess I do. I've had the politically correctness and black sympathy crap shoved down my throat all my life. This article asks if there can ever be unity. NO!
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Posted by ( dbrown34550 ) on March 30, 2008 at 10:48 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
Honest and open dialog is the only way to move past the race obstacle. Acquiring some friends who are not like yourself helps out too. Lower the defenses people - because when you truly here what someone else is saying, its usually not meant as an insult or attack. You can't let your pre-conceived notions tell you what you "think" you're hearing. That goes for everyone. Unity can be achieved if we stop pre-judging the motives of other people before actually hearing them out. This article hits the point, as did Obama's speech - that there will be no unity as long as there is no hard, out-in-the-open, and honest dialog between races. What we have done to this point, through a variety of political correctness methods - is drive a wedge of fear and intimidation between races to prevent the true communication needed to solve the problems and build bridges. I have more friends and acquaintances from other races than my own, and I welcome and enjoy this. Sometimes they say something dumb (without even realizing it) or I say something dumb (again without even realizing it) - but we've moved beyond the point where we judge each other's motives and we just move on. That's progress.
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Posted by ( jon_boy ) on March 30, 2008 at 10:51 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
The only thing any of your banter proves is that more white people read this than other races. You people don't recognize that the smart slaves were killed, and the more subservient, physically strong ones were BRED. That is what has led to centuries of "catching up" that blacks have had to endure in society. I can't wait for my generation to take over and get you bigots the heck out of here.
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Posted by ( FrankDell ) on March 30, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. ( Suggest removal )
here's the entire race problem summed up with an easy solution.Some whites have a problem with blacks, but not all whites.some blacks have a problem with whites, but not all blacks.So here is the solution.when you meet a person don't act like they are representative of there race. look at them like a person and judge them on who they are thats it. if they're jerk then they are the jerk not their race. if they are lazy and looking for the government to give them a hand out than its just them and not their race. if they are inbred and live in a trailer than it is just them and not their race. if they are stupid and uneducated than it is just them and not their race. If we just see people as individuals then race doesn't become a factor.
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Posted by ( Bonsai ) on March 30, 2008 at noon ( Suggest removal )
To Jon-boy - if there were "smart" slaves they wouldn't have let themselves be enslaved in the first place.
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Posted by ( zhonton ) on March 30, 2008 at 12:01 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Whoa! What a hot topic. I agree that racism will never go away. I also agree that all races need to become one human race, set aside our differences, learn from the mistakes of our forefathers and become united. Everyone is blaming someone else for less than better qualities of life. It is up to each and every one of us to make ourselves better and acheive what we want to acheive. A long time ago, my grandmother made a comment to me about "pulling myself up by my bootstraps". We all have bootstraps and need to to some serious tugging at them.
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Posted by ( JVWatts ) on March 30, 2008 at 12:04 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
White people will not talk about race for fear that anything they say that's negative about another race will have them labeled "racist"....White people figure it's better to just keep their mouthes shut and go on....
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Posted by ( tokin ) on March 30, 2008 at 12:04 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
are you serious!! you know its blacks that tend to forget that there chiefs of there tribes sold them, however this is a ridiculous display of kissing peoples butts, there hasn't been slavery for hundreds of years why od they have to apologize for it now its midly retarded
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Posted by ( truthseeker ) on March 30, 2008 at 1:46 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
flarrfanPerson A (racist) hits you over your head with a pipe.Person B (prejudiced) hits you over the head with a pipe.Which one hurts more?
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Posted by ( Scott ) on March 30, 2008 at 2:24 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I have listened to many sound bites from Rev. Wright in Chicago and he is nothing more than a David Duke that is black. If a white church in Chicago had a preacher that said the same things against blacks that Wright said about whites, Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton would be all over it demanding the church be shut down. To think we have a presidential candidate that listened to that crap for 20 years or so is a Big Red Flag for me. As long as blacks continue to spew the hate towards whites, there will never be unity among the races. As long as black on white crime is 10 times higher than white on black crime( See Purse snatching article as a perfect example ), there will be no unity. As long as blacks get preference over more qualified whites for jobs, there will be no unity. As long as there are black colleges, black Ms. America, B.E.T., ect..., there will be no unity. If the black community wants unity, they need to clean out their garage first before blaming whites. It is not the whites responsibility to lower it's standards to meet blacks, it is up to the blacks to raise their standards to whites. This does not include all blacks as I know some that agree with what I'm saying. A large amount though that complain the most have the most garbage in their garage.
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Posted by ( Elijah ) on March 30, 2008 at 5:09 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
Who Cares?!? Blacks will continue to blame whites for everything wrong with themselves. They will continue to shoot each other and sell drugs to one another. Continue to drop out of school and become thugs. And have it all glorified on BET. It is sick and disgusting this is even a topic of discussion. I hate thugs of all color, unfortunately the majority come in the color black. To black people: wake up, do something positive for yourselves and stop looking for excuses!! Excuses are like butt holes, everyone has one and they all stink!!
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Posted by ( Jen1897 ) on March 30, 2008 at 5:50 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
How right you are Elijah. Unfortunatly though I doubt they will change. And they really don't have to "look" for excuses. To alot of them, being black is the only excuse they need. Pulling the the race card has work for a very long time for them so why change? It makes me sick. They have all the opportunity in the world to become something, though they will tell you different. There is no excuse for the situation alot of blacks are in yet they remain in it. WHY?
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Compassion begins with imagination.
Use imagination to put yourself in the other person's place.
Once you can do that, you can begin to develop compassion.
Compassion isn't sympathy, and it isn't soft. It is the ability to put yourself in another person's experience with some honesty and power and willingess to be altered by doing so.
If you value your opinions and your biases more than you value the possiblity of healing the wound left in this country by slavery, you will not even attempt it.
Compassion isn't all warm and fuzzy. It can lead to some very uncomfortable experiences and some very difficult realizations.
If you would rather be right than have peace, you won't even think about it.
This is a tough conversation with some bitter episodes contained in it. At some time we will have to have it or we will continue to glare at each other across the line with distrust and anger and misunderstanding.
The racism lingering from slavery is an infected and festering wound that separates us and leaves us open to exploitation and manipulation.
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Posted by ( Elijah ) on March 30, 2008 at 8:10 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
catherwood....very well said!
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Posted by ( SKR ) on March 30, 2008 at 8:12 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
JackNelsonSteward said: "The racism lingering from slavery is an infected and festering wound that separates us and leaves us open to exploitation and manipulation."
He needs to go back and read the comment by: Scott posted at 2:24 p.m.
The way people feel today has nothing what-so-ever to do with anything lingering from slavery! It has to do with many, (not all), but far too many black people trying to blame their problems on white people and expect to be handed everything while doing nothing to help themselves. It also has a lot to do with the crimes committed against white people by black people... just like the the Jena Six; and how on earth can so many black people leave their jobs to travel towards a town to protest, and why on earth did they think it was alright for a bunch of kids, (no matter what color), to jump one lone kid??? What do you think would have happened had that been white boys jumping one lone black boy? Where on earth are the black people who will stand against such crimes. Should you stand or defend someone who is wrong just because they are the same race as you??? NO YOU SHOULD NOT! Should you vote for a man just because he is black? NO YOU SHOULD NOT!
What I am saying there will never be peace between the races as long as things,as I have mentioned continue. Racism... on yes it still exist, and it is a two way street!
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Posted by ( abuela1942 ) on March 30, 2008 at 8:29 p.m. ( Suggest removal )
I thought this was a great, well-written article. I did not read it as saying that only whites are racist (or prejudiced, if you will). I thought it was balanced. The way I see it, prejudice exists on both sides. I am a very impartial person, and have been that way since I ws a child. Usually I am not afraid to talk to anyone on any subject, but I find myself holding back on the subject of race with people of another race. Yet there is so much I would like to know about them, but I'm afraid to ask for fear of being thought of as "racist". I agree with the person who said people of a like kind flock together. I have seen it so much. I am retired now, but at my last employer, it was like the United Nations. We had people from everywhere. We all worked together very well, but at lunch time, the black people would go into one of the conference rooms to eat and close the door. That's not the way to get to know each other. Our Asians did the same thing. We had a few Muslims, and they mixed with us a little more. I don't know the answer either, but it definitely isn't "hate" and exclusion. We are all children of God (or a Higher Poweer) as we understand Him. If a person's skin is removed, we all look alike. Why should skin be so important?? One thing that is going on that I disagree with is the removal (or re-writing) of history. I am referring to flags, state songs, etc. If we ignore and do not learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it.
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OK, I have read Scott's post.
I have a different viewpoint. I assert that there is NOTHING in the relations between black and white in this country today that is NOT directly traceable back to the institution of slavery.
In this country black and white first met as property and owner...cattle and rancher...horse and rider.
That specific relationship, with all it implies, was the foundation of the ONLY relationship between those races for some three hundred years or so. That's at least ten generations.
Along the way there were free blacks, and, even the free blacks were subject to kidnap IN THIS COUNTRY and transport to slave states.
Throughout the entire history of this country, from its founding until the mid sixties, racism was a legal FACT, literally written into law, some of which had been tested by no less an institution than the Supreme Court.
I assert that it is folly to assume that following that history, forty years of legal freedom and legal protection has erased all traces of that.
See, you can't talk to a fish about water. They say,"What water .... I don't see any water." and I say THAT is the condition in which we exist today regarding racism and the legacy of slavery in this country.
Think ... think ....
Talk to me ...
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Blacks take history back as far as it suits YOUR story. WRONG.White slavery existed in America BEFORE black slavery but I'm sure this post won't be here for LONG. LOL TBO STAFF !!!
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The legacy of slavery included WHITES. EUROPEAN WHITES before African and other black slaves ever were brought to this continent.Seriously am I THE ONLY PERSON IN TAMPA WHO READS????? No wonder why I never fit in here. LOL
Above think think
I exhort you : READ READ.
Go back past the last 100 years. Surely if you read the Negro journals since you are all up on that ... LOL... you will find THE TRUTH.TRUTH is what I'm sayin.READ ........ READ ..........
REVEAL ....... REVEAL ..........then check your black mason friends and their propaganda machine.
READ READ
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Yo, why was this comment deleted??
I did say shut up in it which I removed ..... let's try again and see if it still offends....
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Why don't we all dye ourselves a neutral color and then (deleted by author)??That would be preferable to the Tampa Tribune attempting to create division in a city which blacks and whites have long conspired together criminally to DO over those not from the South.yeah, let's get to the REAL issues.LOL.OR we can try to find out why people applaud a guy for running over a black dude, pity a chick for fleeing the scene of a hit and run, give an attorney's son a pass for murder and set up the son of the editor of the Tampa Tribune years back (mark) so that the Tampa Tribune could get away with the stuff it does.Editorializing against folks using their own property the way they see fit, for instance. (black owners of central park)Exhorting the population to vote for Pam Iorio's niece, Jessica Sierra, on American Idol. Oh, that's RIGHT, she's not her niece anymore.LOL.This little one cow town needsa get a life. When you get the slaves of yesterday to stop criminalizing with THEIR OWNERS of yesterday I think that we can all agree that racism is alive and well.Also, the white slaves of white owners .... same difference. Course you have to READ to find that out. Read the negro journals. That's what they're called: Negro. Not my wording. READ THEM.Until then, why I think the 'races' work together mighty well. I see them at it all the time. In and out of cop cars. L O L. In other words, some of them even did so much they earned badges for it .. and cop cars.we just need the healing spirit of the first black president.L O L.Oprah and the Pampa Tribune.For god's sake. Ya sneak this stuff in on sunday and what????If we're such racists how did so many people come down on the side of the black chick that was messed with by kevin white ??? HUH???AND, where did THAT story go???AND, if we're such racists why is it that I see so many mixed EVERYTHING all around me??We're only racists when it's convenient for the italian/goodolboy/powerstructureLOL /blackwhiteto promote some division. Yet, when two black guys ran against the mayor and honestly proposed some changes the Tribune shouted them down.What's UP Trib?Who ARE the racists?The racists are the ones whe PROMOTE the idea that racism exists.Ask around and again ... (deleted)
This post was better with the acronymys but now there is NOTHING IN IT that the tribune could use as an excuse to delete.Save the truth.They does have a real racism against dat truth in Pampa.Yes sir they do.
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Here's just ONE link:
JUST ONE.
How is it that the Tampa Tribune chose the bible toting thomas scott instead of any THOUSANDS OF BLACKS they could have interviewed???
HOW IS IT that the Pampa Tribune missed all these connections to and scholarly and historical accounts of WHITE SLAVERY in America??
Is there any coincidence that Obama and Oprah are driving this O TRAIN OF LIES???Makes me SICK.
And, I agree, it raises some REAL RED FLAGS that he associated with a church who is such a repository of racism.Oprah first, then obama. He could have been ANY BLACK MAN. Oprah wants to choose the next president. And, the Tampa Tribune would like to help her.I'd like to see a photo of the author of this article and where she managed to find what she DID find and yet managed to miss voluminous accounts of WHITE SLAVERY in America.
http://multiracial.com/site/content/view/462/27/
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Here's just ONE link:
JUST ONE.
How is it that the Tampa Tribune chose the bible toting thomas scott instead of any THOUSANDS OF BLACKS they could have interviewed???
HOW IS IT that the Pampa Tribune missed all these connections to and scholarly and historical accounts of WHITE SLAVERY in America??
Is there any coincidence that Obama and Oprah are driving this O TRAIN OF LIES???Makes me SICK.
And, I agree, it raises some REAL RED FLAGS that he associated with a church who is such a repository of racism.Oprah first, then obama. He could have been ANY BLACK MAN. Oprah wants to choose the next president. And, the Tampa Tribune would like to help her.I'd like to see a photo of the author of this article and where she managed to find what she DID find and yet managed to miss voluminous accounts of WHITE SLAVERY in America.
http://multiracial.com/site/content/view/462/27
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Sometimes it's hard to tell if people are just slow, disingenuous or purposely misleading or just plain liars. I kinda think a LOT of it falls in the latter category.


I wish people who seem to understand that the MSM has turned into a Bush propaganda machine would realize something else.


People seem to be under the mistaken impression (or they're LYING to PLANT THE SEED because they believe that others are as stupid as THEY) that Hollywood reflects modern culture.

This is simply NOT TRUE. Media does it's best to LEAD popular culture, to direct fashion and to decide what is the next big thing ...


Seriously, did the Marlboro man come first or did you smoke first? Come ON, you can tell ME.


Currently the media attempts to lead America into the morass of a 'needed' conversation about racism.


Folks. The articles are so slanted that even total fucking unwashed IDIOTS get that they are one-sided.



Then we've got trashy white bloggers claiming THEY are racists but NOT TO RACIST to link up with BLACK COLUMNISTS to frost the racism cake some more. Call em as you see me. It's FUCKING DISGUSTING to take a country of progress and put it on the back burner. So, you MUST be a bush fan(s) because this is HIS goal. What makes me think she supports obama or mcmann for president?
Please, they interview people like Thomas Scott for an article on racism. He is strongly loathed by black and white equally. They used to constantly interview Ahmed Bedier til I did some incessant screeching about THAT. FUCK THAT. There's more than one fucking muslim and black man and white man in Tampa. Certainly the same can be said about women. No one elected Ahmed the spokesmodel for a group but HIMSELF and the Tampa Tribune. Certainly NO ONE has ever accused Thomas 'tote the bible' Scott of having any non-bias. PULEEZE. Why not interview Kevin White?? Oh, that's right ... there's that hush hush biz of trying to FUCK his intern going on . hmmmm


AND, over to Westshore Plaza Pam's extended family sits behind me and says Pam Pam Pam twenty five times ..... LOL. Too f'ing bad. You want me to SHUT UP?? THEN GET THE FUCK UP OFFFFFFFFFFFFFA ME. AND MINE. ALL OF MINE.


We figured out LONG BACK that IF we wanted to run a gang we'd be able to do so with maximum efficiency compared to the frigging idiots that yall manage to recruit. Which, of course, is PURPOSEFUL.


One smart person threatens the whole infrastructure.


Here: real clear: FUCK YOU. Got that??


Anyway ... the whole point of this post is this:

The media is leading NOT REPORTING the subjects. They make up shit that suits their purpose, get it out there --- and why??

It's ALL PROPAGANDA. ALL OF IT.


Oprah Winfrey is one of the WORST perpetrators and her boy is being shoved in to the White House. (she thinks)

OH and Donna Brazile?? LOL !! She didn't quit her job. She must be GREAT friends with Oprah because not long after Oprah emailed me when I blogged her ... Donna did the same.
Sure and it's a coincidence that I tell Donna to QUIT her job, already. Which she promised to do if the super-delegates didn't DO WHAT SHE WANTED ... and she emails me. Right after I blogged Oprah, SHE emailed me. Yeah. Ladies .... whatever.

Donna, you're all flash and mouth, huh??

Quit your fucking propaganda job, already.


Yall are SO full of SHIT and so transparent.


Do yall out there in blogland think that MAYBE this is the way apartheid and Holocaust started out in other places??

Because I'm here to tell you that it DID. More on that later.<>

Oh, and quickly ... talking about the grids of Tampa did PISS OFF a number of folks. L O L.


Good.


So, I'm a keep talkin about it every chance I get.


Pam Pam Pam Pam Pam Pam Pam.


Gonna call Pam.


Yeah, you go ahead and call her, sir.


I went that route a few years back.

Talk to Southwick.


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