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Tampa Arsonist hitting close to home

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interesting that I was researching these guys because they own a dump right next to the latest ybor arson and then lo and behold (18th avenue where jane claimed it was NOT near the ybor fires yet there it sits SMACK IN YBOR smacl in the block) so then george driver and jeffrey long who is alleged to work for FDLE get their house burnt .. only driver was inside. maybe it's over between them???
Neighbors lead man out of Tampa house fire, help rescue pets
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TAMPA — Paul Kerr was drinking his coffee about 3 a.m., getting ready for his early shift at Home Depot, when he heard a loud pop.
He looked outside to see flames shooting up from his neighbor's garage.
"I screamed, 'Call 911, call the fire department,' " Kerr recalled.
Kerr, 38, woke his stepson, Mathew Ausburn, 20, and ran to the front of the house at 5119 N River Blvd.
They yelled for their neighbor and banged on the front door. No one answered.
Ausburn said he and Kerr barged through the front door, where they were met with a billowing wall of smoke. They could only see about 6 inches in front of them.
They met George A. Driver in the hallway. He had been sleeping and was confused, Ausburn said. When he first woke up, he thought he was blind.
The three rushed out of the house. It would take an hour and dozens of firefighters before the blaze was under control.
The $130,000 home is owned by Driver and Jeffrey S. Long, according to property records. The structure is considered a total loss.
Investigators determined the fire was caused by a mechanical failure associated with a scooter in the garage, Tampa Fire Rescue said. Damage to the home and its contents was estimated to be about $300,000.
As soon as Driver was out of the house, he remembered that his standard poodle, Trevor, and three birds were still inside.
So in they went. The men made several trips back in the house to rescue the animals.
They had to run in twice after the poodle, which darted back in the house after the first rescue.
Ausburn said there wasn't a doubt that he had to go in and help his neighbor of eight years.
"He's like my uncle," he said. "If he's going to die in the fire, I might as well go in there with him. He's like family to me. I'm not going to lose a family member."
Once they got the animals, they watched crews battle the blaze from Ausburn's home. They could feel the heat from the flames.
"He was just screaming, 'My house, my house,' " he said.
Ausburn's mother, Tammy Kerr, said she is just happy Driver is all right.
"Houses can be rebuilt," she said.
Times staff writers Andy Boyle and Shelley Rossetter contributed to this report.
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doodlebug wrote:
Heroes! I'm very proud of these guys!
Aug 30, 2010 11:20 AM
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tooprettyforprison wrote:
HEY. these guys owned the house right next to the one on 18th avenue in YBOR that was arson'd. SMALL WORLD, huh??? The one guy works for the FDLE so the properties are all unlisted. Jeffrey Long. The whole deal with those two is quite quite weird. Pay back of some sort going on here !
Aug 30, 2010 12:56 PM
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TimfromIndiana wrote:
Nice to hear positive stories. Good job to both men for their efforts.
Aug 30, 2010 4:25 PM
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mpbinpinellas wrote:
i am sure people are just burning to thank them.
Aug 30, 2010 6:40 PM
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littletampagal wrote:
hey tooprettyforprison..Jeffrey Long is a realtor and the property is listed on HCPA. Get your facts correct before posting your not correct comments!!
Aug 30, 2010 6:42 PM
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littletampagal wrote:
hey mpbinpinellas.. from someone that lost their house last year to a house fire and lost my dog in the fire, that is not funny. May the lord forgive you for your stupid comment!!!
Aug 30, 2010 6:51 PM
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elainec wrote:
Oops, sugarme is off her meds. Good job, Mr. Kerr and Mr. Ausburn.
Aug 30, 2010 6:53 PM
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tooprettyforprison wrote:
elainec, real nice. You're welcome for all the times I had your back. Whatever. LOL. THAT is THE ONE property which is listed. Numerous others: NOT. Yes he is a realtor AND w/the FDLE. I always have my facts straight. littletampagal: Yeah, they burnt down MY house when I was 12, as well and my little Christmas puppy was lost. But they weren't done YET. Spence Roberts, arsonist and Tampa fireman THEN burnt down my sister's home and now his fat, disgusting family lives there. And she is DEAD as a result. So ... this, besides the fact that he then tried to burn down my mother's house twice (IDIOT is a failure at everything he tries but 1/2 the arsons and some murders)perhaps causes me to look at TFR w/a sharper eye than most. They probably burnt your house down, too. Have a closer look at jeffrey long. The recent arson on 18th ave in ybor is NEXT DOOR to his other property under global one. Go have a look.
Aug 31, 2010 10:22 PM
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Monday, August 30, 2010

fatass

I worry about you not wearing a seatbelt.

What if you fell off your trike??

And busted yourself to bits on the asphalt??

The world would lose:


A nice clean piece of asphalt.


Loser.


Murderer.

Another child murdered

CLEARWATER — A Safety Harbor woman died late Saturday after losing control of her car and slamming into a utility pole, police said.
The woman, Jillian Lacey Rivers, 25, was driving a 2000 Nissan south on U.S. 19 just before 11 p.m. when she struck the utility pole at 25400 U.S. 19 N.
Clearwater Fire Rescue pronounced her dead at the scene. She was the only occupant of the car and no other vehicles were involved in the crash, police said.
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Ace wrote:
So young,had her whole life in front of her.
That is very sad indeed.
Condolences to her family and friends.
Aug 29, 2010 8:49 AM
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Clobbohead wrote:
I'm guessing "No seatbelt"
Aug 29, 2010 9:23 AM
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gogreen46 wrote:
Busterbowels and Liquorbutt - I hope you both lose a beloved young family member in a terrible tragedy. You deserve it.
Aug 29, 2010 9:49 AM
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vennmaster wrote:
so stpetetimes while what those guys said was bad it's no better to leave the insults and the hope that they lose young family members.Dear family, So sorry for your immeasurable loss. Kind thoughts go out to you in a time that will last forever. Take care of yourselves.
Aug 29, 2010 10:31 AM
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apflorida wrote:
I actually drove by this accident last night, and the sight was horrible. Poor girl the car was smashed like an acordian.
Aug 29, 2010 10:37 AM
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Boppy wrote:
Another senseless death. There are so many of them. I'm not going to jump to any conclusions as the the cause of this tragedy. I do extend my deepest sympathy to the family and loved ones of Ms. Rivers.
Aug 29, 2010 10:57 AM
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gogreen46 wrote:
Sandy Gina - if SPT hadn't taken their disgusting posts off you would have seen them - both CONSTANTLY write vile and hateful things here. As far as wishing me a happy gathering, you're just as bad. Touche.
Aug 29, 2010 11:30 AM
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YumYum wrote:
More facts are needed before conclusions can be made. RIP Jillian!.
Aug 29, 2010 11:47 AM
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luvstpete wrote:
Condolences to family and friends.
Aug 29, 2010 11:49 AM
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edg wrote:
So many of you are judgemental and ignorant simpletons. No one knows the facts of what happened. Yes, she may have been texting, or chemically impaired. Then again, she may have had a massive stroke, or even a heart attack. Yes, these things do happen to young women. You who rush to judgements and concusions need to get a life. SHAME ON YOU!!! You are merely using this tragedy for your amusement, and the St. Ptersburg Times is facilitating this under the guise for freedom of expression. What if YOU were the ones at a funeral home today making these final arrangements for a member of your family? I for one, have been there and done that. My step-son died in an accident and was neither impares nor texting.
Aug 29, 2010 11:50 AM
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empsnewclozh wrote:
Another fine day of posters wishing each other unbearable pain and loss. I'm glad to see some of your self serving rants under your various screen names on other articles such as this were removed.
Condolences to the family and friends of this woman.
Aug 29, 2010 11:55 AM
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dawgman wrote:
Busterbowels and Liquorbutt...so easy to hide behind a keyboard...You both are not only cowards but are deserving of experiencing tragedy's in your life. May you both answer for your despicable comments when your time comes
Aug 29, 2010 12:01 PM
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Mini2010 wrote:
What time was it? Did she fall asleep at the wheel possibly? It sounds like she didn't even hit the breaks according to those who saw the car.
Aug 29, 2010 12:45 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
gogreen46, that doesn't make what you said correct. I learned that in like ... near-infancy. Reject wishing ill on others. You have a doorstep, as well. I reserve my venom for the scum who lead entire legions of citizens (the state of Florida) in an unhealthy direction. I happen to believe they will die a painful death. So wishing it on them is not really prophetic but knowing. Any way ... you are lowering yourself to their level. Just for the record.
Aug 29, 2010 12:47 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
edg, so sorry for your loss. Hugs !
Aug 29, 2010 12:49 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
Okay everyone better STFU. I just realized I know this girl's parents. LAY OFF. She has a tiny little brother about 13 years old who is very smart and will likely read here. GDF, I'm SO SORRY !!!! Let me know if the jays and I can do ANYTHING at all. I'm so sorry. I wish that I could wrap my arms around you. This is more than enough car wrecks in your family for YOU TOO to question what the hell is going on in Tampa. I love you. I'm so sorry we lost touch. Lay off, people and I mean it. I have missed you so much and I feel how badly you are hurting now. Love to you and your mama and lil one .... SO SORRY !!!
Aug 29, 2010 1:11 PM
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willie_from_penniless_park wrote:
another reason i don't like driving on US19 - especially later in the evening... unfortunately, we'll never read about why or how this happened
Aug 29, 2010 1:14 PM
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beeper555 wrote:
It's sad to see her driving record and see she's been ticketed several times for careless or reckless driving, DUI,leaving the scence, no seat belts and etc. One would hope people would learn from their mistakes. Too many young people feel they are immortal, that nothing will happen to them. I do feel sorry for the family.
Aug 29, 2010 1:39 PM
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HarrysHiat wrote:
gogreen46 wrote:
Busterbowels and Liquorbutt - I hope you both lose a beloved young family member in a terrible tragedy. You deserve it.Aug 29, 2010 9:49 AMYou must have gotten your vile comment removed the wannabe bikerLiquorbutt & the wannabee tough guy Busterbowels.
Aug 29, 2010 1:45 PM
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lili wrote:
To all you people that have so much hatred in your hearts-remeber the old saying"If you can't sat something mice then don't say anything at all". Somehow i do not think you can do it!
Aug 29, 2010 1:46 PM
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beeper555 wrote:
beeper555 wrote: It's sad to see her driving record and see she's been ticketed several times for careless or reckless driving, DUI,leaving the scence, no seat belts and etc. One would hope people would learn from their mistakes. Too many young people feel they are immortal, that nothing will happen to them. In any case, I do feel sorry for the family's loss.
....perhaps my original words were not said right.
Aug 29, 2010 1:58 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
Then why did you bring it up, beeper555??? This was a beautiful young lady with parent who loved her and thought the world of her future despite a broken home. The car she was driving was also wrecked by someone pulling out in front of HER MOTHER as her mother left my home one day. The mother had to swerve to avoid hitting someone at anderson and waters. Didn't get the car back for a LONG TIME. Kinda suspicious if you ask me. Any witnesses? This smells like murder to me just as the attempt on the mother whom the car rolled over w/her inside breaking bones in her body ... Right down the street from them lives the head of the hit and run gangs. Shares the name with mike roberts' murderer. I'm pretty sure they went to webb together, as well. And more. So maybe she was run off the road. Some kids are more easily led than others. Just because she hit a pole does not mean she was not induced to do so by another driver.
Aug 29, 2010 2:00 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
sounds to me like she was targeted. They tried to get my young family member driving at sixteen, as well. No doubt to pull the same. When that failed they tried to get him on a bike. Actually made up some story about it ... got it all on video. Murdering peoples' children destroys the family. Except some of us realized we were smarter and decided to LET THEM KNOW WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE UP TO. I'd like to see some video of this crash. I'm sure there has to be a nearby camera or a REAL witness not a planted one as they like to do.
Aug 29, 2010 2:05 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
their former home is now in gang hands. Wondered what was going on around there. Very recent ganger movein. This family is a good family. Every kid my family member KNOWS goes back to the gangster husband of the above facebook.
Aug 29, 2010 2:09 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
realtor.
Aug 29, 2010 2:09 PM
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SmokeyFBaby wrote:
Lacey was one of the sweetest funniest girls you could meet. She left behind her daughter and family. she had just recently lost her brother which was the hardest thing for her.. shes going to be very missed by all her friends and family. i didnt know her very well or even for that long.. but every time we did hang out she always had people laughin!! RIP LACEY.. YOU WILL BE MISSED. only the good die you...
Aug 29, 2010 2:31 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
smokeyfbaby, WHAT brother?? Younger brother??? Please tell me.
Aug 29, 2010 2:40 PM
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keepdreaming wrote:
I believe that this girl had just lost her brother in Nov. 2009 from a motorcycle crash in Clearwater. If this is correct, this is another horrible tragedy for this family. God bless.
Aug 29, 2010 4:15 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
what is the brother's name? Please tell me. I know her mother. She must be losing her mind right now. I would like to know before I call her. Please. Just put a link if there is one.
Aug 29, 2010 4:21 PM
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keepdreaming wrote:
Yes, Lacey's brother, Daniel died on Nov. 5, 2009 from a motorcycle crash. Pray for this family as this double tragedy is too much loss for anyone to endure on their own.
Aug 29, 2010 4:23 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
never mind. I found it. Thank you for relating this. I wanted to be sure it wasn't the little boy before I called her. Thank you.
Aug 29, 2010 4:24 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
sandy gina you are a piece of ●●●●.
Aug 29, 2010 4:24 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
delgado family musta woke up and had the commentary about their murdering selves removed. It's okay... we have a better place for that.
Aug 29, 2010 4:27 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
google sarah rinaldi. Same folks involved.
Aug 29, 2010 7:13 PM
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Honestly50 wrote:
ole Busterbowels you already got 1 comment removed wannabee tough guy. Know I didn't wait hours for you to show up
Aug 29, 2010 7:32 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
delgado, vicki facebook.
Aug 29, 2010 7:58 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
for the record, I see no arrests or dui or anything for this young person.
Aug 29, 2010 8:16 PM
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the hoff wrote:
It was karma.
Aug 29, 2010 8:49 PM
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aliveinlargo wrote:
Vennmaster, I see you have feelings and a conscience after all. You have slammed others out here at other posts and have made some not so moral comments that seem full of vile and ugly. Now..the karma has come around real close to home. RIP Jillian.
Aug 29, 2010 8:55 PM
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Greenhill wrote:
25 and 0. Dark 11 Pm. Not watching what your doing, pole, opps.I'm still sorry for this young girl. My condolences to the family.
Aug 29, 2010 8:57 PM
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Clobbohead wrote:
lili; here I "sat something mice" (sic)(. Sorry for the loss. But she was insane to drive on 19 in the A.M. with no seatbealt. Probably a family tradition from the trailer park she lived in.
Aug 29, 2010 8:58 PM
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the hoff wrote:
Bad things happen to bad drivers.
Aug 29, 2010 9:04 PM
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keepdreaming wrote:
It makes me very sad to read the posts here. None of you know this girl do you? Do you know what kind of person she was? Do you know anything about her or her baby or her family? If not, don't say these cruel things. Family members read these posts sometimes and the cruelty is salt for their already wounded hearts. Keep your ignorance and your "thoughts" about what "might" have happened to yourself. If you know facts about Lacey as a person...then post. This is tragic and the majority of post are pure stupidity.
Aug 29, 2010 9:21 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
hey aliveinlargo, is that you gina clotworthy?? W/your numerous drug and drinking arrests?? As a matter of fact I met LACEY and her mother during the aftermath of a MURDER in my own family. And they extended a great deal of kindness towards us. Not that it's ANY of your business ... I say what I want which is the truth, unlike you stalking people around like white trash. For the record, the family is a good family and none live in trailers where most of you belong. I'd prefer a good trailer person to the trash on bayshore blvd now and on shellpoint drive and conley off of bayshore. Her grandmother and brother and mother and younger brother will eventually read here. A mystery to me where karen mcallister is today. alive in largo, stop stalking me.
Aug 29, 2010 9:36 PM
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Sunday, August 29, 2010

hey vicki, thanks for the velez, john connect. PRECIATE IT

here ya go, st pete times. go fuck yourself... this will be ALL OVER THE WEB in like FIVE MINUTES.

read all the comments they had deleted

Woman dies in Clearwater one-car crash
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CLEARWATER — A Safety Harbor woman died late Saturday after losing control of her car and slamming into a utility pole, police said.
The woman, Jillian Lacey Rivers, 25, was driving a 2000 Nissan south on U.S. 19 just before 11 p.m. when she struck the utility pole at 25400 U.S. 19 N.
Clearwater Fire Rescue pronounced her dead at the scene. She was the only occupant of the car and no other vehicles were involved in the crash, police said.
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There are 30 comments Oldest FirstNewest FirstTop Rated

Ace wrote:
So young,had her whole life in front of her.
That is very sad indeed.
Condolences to her family and friends.
Aug 29, 2010 8:49 AM
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Clobbohead wrote:
I'm guessing "No seatbelt"
Aug 29, 2010 9:23 AM
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gogreen46 wrote:
Busterbowels and Liquorbutt - I hope you both lose a beloved young family member in a terrible tragedy. You deserve it.
Aug 29, 2010 9:49 AM
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vennmaster wrote:
so stpetetimes while what those guys said was bad it's no better to leave the insults and the hope that they lose young family members.Dear family, So sorry for your immeasurable loss. Kind thoughts go out to you in a time that will last forever. Take care of yourselves.
Aug 29, 2010 10:31 AM
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apflorida wrote:
I actually drove by this accident last night, and the sight was horrible. Poor girl the car was smashed like an acordian.
Aug 29, 2010 10:37 AM
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Boppy wrote:
Another senseless death. There are so many of them. I'm not going to jump to any conclusions as the the cause of this tragedy. I do extend my deepest sympathy to the family and loved ones of Ms. Rivers.
Aug 29, 2010 10:57 AM
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gogreen46 wrote:
Sandy Gina - if SPT hadn't taken their disgusting posts off you would have seen them - both CONSTANTLY write vile and hateful things here. As far as wishing me a happy gathering, you're just as bad. Touche.
Aug 29, 2010 11:30 AM
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YumYum wrote:
More facts are needed before conclusions can be made. RIP Jillian!.
Aug 29, 2010 11:47 AM
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luvstpete wrote:
Condolences to family and friends.
Aug 29, 2010 11:49 AM
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edg wrote:
So many of you are judgemental and ignorant simpletons. No one knows the facts of what happened. Yes, she may have been texting, or chemically impaired. Then again, she may have had a massive stroke, or even a heart attack. Yes, these things do happen to young women. You who rush to judgements and concusions need to get a life. SHAME ON YOU!!! You are merely using this tragedy for your amusement, and the St. Ptersburg Times is facilitating this under the guise for freedom of expression. What if YOU were the ones at a funeral home today making these final arrangements for a member of your family? I for one, have been there and done that. My step-son died in an accident and was neither impares nor texting.
Aug 29, 2010 11:50 AM
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empsnewclozh wrote:
Another fine day of posters wishing each other unbearable pain and loss. I'm glad to see some of your self serving rants under your various screen names on other articles such as this were removed.
Condolences to the family and friends of this woman.
Aug 29, 2010 11:55 AM
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dawgman wrote:
Busterbowels and Liquorbutt...so easy to hide behind a keyboard...You both are not only cowards but are deserving of experiencing tragedy's in your life. May you both answer for your despicable comments when your time comes
Aug 29, 2010 12:01 PM
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Mini2010 wrote:
What time was it? Did she fall asleep at the wheel possibly? It sounds like she didn't even hit the breaks according to those who saw the car.
Aug 29, 2010 12:45 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
gogreen46, that doesn't make what you said correct. I learned that in like ... near-infancy. Reject wishing ill on others. You have a doorstep, as well. I reserve my venom for the scum who lead entire legions of citizens (the state of Florida) in an unhealthy direction. I happen to believe they will die a painful death. So wishing it on them is not really prophetic but knowing. Any way ... you are lowering yourself to their level. Just for the record.
Aug 29, 2010 12:47 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
edg, so sorry for your loss. Hugs !
Aug 29, 2010 12:49 PM
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SandyGina wrote:
gogreen46, libtard with green teeth no doubt. Bite me greenie.
Aug 29, 2010 12:54 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
Okay everyone better STFU. I just realized I know this girl's parents. LAY OFF. She has a tiny little brother about 13 years old who is very smart and will likely read here. GDF, I'm SO SORRY !!!! Let me know if the jays and I can do ANYTHING at all. I'm so sorry. I wish that I could wrap my arms around you. This is more than enough car wrecks in your family for YOU TOO to question what the hell is going on in Tampa. I love you. I'm so sorry we lost touch. Lay off, people and I mean it. I have missed you so much and I feel how badly you are hurting now. Love to you and your mama and lil one .... SO SORRY !!!
Aug 29, 2010 1:11 PM
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willie_from_penniless_park wrote:
another reason i don't like driving on US19 - especially later in the evening... unfortunately, we'll never read about why or how this happened
Aug 29, 2010 1:14 PM
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beeper555 wrote:
It's sad to see her driving record and see she's been ticketed several times for careless or reckless driving, DUI,leaving the scence, no seat belts and etc. One would hope people would learn from their mistakes. Too many young people feel they are immortal, that nothing will happen to them. I do feel sorry for the family.
Aug 29, 2010 1:39 PM
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HarrysHiat wrote:
gogreen46 wrote:
Busterbowels and Liquorbutt - I hope you both lose a beloved young family member in a terrible tragedy. You deserve it.Aug 29, 2010 9:49 AMYou must have gotten your vile comment removed the wannabe bikerLiquorbutt & the wannabee tough guy Busterbowels.
Aug 29, 2010 1:45 PM
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lili wrote:
To all you people that have so much hatred in your hearts-remeber the old saying"If you can't sat something mice then don't say anything at all". Somehow i do not think you can do it!
Aug 29, 2010 1:46 PM
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beeper555 wrote:
beeper555 wrote: It's sad to see her driving record and see she's been ticketed several times for careless or reckless driving, DUI,leaving the scence, no seat belts and etc. One would hope people would learn from their mistakes. Too many young people feel they are immortal, that nothing will happen to them. In any case, I do feel sorry for the family's loss.
....perhaps my original words were not said right.
Aug 29, 2010 1:58 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
Then why did you bring it up, beeper555??? This was a beautiful young lady with parent who loved her and thought the world of her future despite a broken home. The car she was driving was also wrecked by someone pulling out in front of HER MOTHER as her mother left my home one day. The mother had to swerve to avoid hitting someone at anderson and waters. Didn't get the car back for a LONG TIME. Kinda suspicious if you ask me. Any witnesses? This smells like murder to me just as the attempt on the mother whom the car rolled over w/her inside breaking bones in her body ... Right down the street from them lives the head of the hit and run gangs. Shares the name with mike roberts' murderer. I'm pretty sure they went to webb together, as well. And more. So maybe she was run off the road. Some kids are more easily led than others. Just because she hit a pole does not mean she was not induced to do so by another driver.
Aug 29, 2010 2:00 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
http://www.facebook.com/vicki.delgado
Aug 29, 2010 2:03 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
sounds to me like she was targeted. They tried to get my young family member driving at sixteen, as well. No doubt to pull the same. When that failed they tried to get him on a bike. Actually made up some story about it ... got it all on video. Murdering peoples' children destroys the family. Except some of us realized we were smarter and decided to LET THEM KNOW WE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE UP TO. I'd like to see some video of this crash. I'm sure there has to be a nearby camera or a REAL witness not a planted one as they like to do.
Aug 29, 2010 2:05 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
their former home is now in gang hands. Wondered what was going on around there. Very recent ganger movein. This family is a good family. Every kid my family member KNOWS goes back to the gangster husband of the above facebook.
Aug 29, 2010 2:09 PM
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realtor.
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SmokeyFBaby wrote:
Lacey was one of the sweetest funniest girls you could meet. She left behind her daughter and family. she had just recently lost her brother which was the hardest thing for her.. shes going to be very missed by all her friends and family. i didnt know her very well or even for that long.. but every time we did hang out she always had people laughin!! RIP LACEY.. YOU WILL BE MISSED. only the good die you...
Aug 29, 2010 2:31 PM
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SandyGina wrote:
"It's sad to see her driving record and see she's been ticketed several times for careless or reckless driving, DUI,leaving the scene, no seat belts and etc." BINGO! The streets are a bit safer today.
Aug 29, 2010 2:39 PM
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smokeyfbaby, WHAT brother?? Younger brother??? Please tell me.
Aug 29, 2010 2:40 PM
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daniel cribb old man's car matching lucas quinn of the TPD MCElroy famlly

but what they ALL have in common is .... COLIN BREEN AND ROBERT O'NEILL.

How is it that Robert O'Neill's partner's wife knows SO MANY FUCKING COKE DEALERS???

Along with stytch the little mcdonald's x dealer for mega con in orlando who lives right next to fat belly's on himes where the lady died screaming...
and then christine decided HE WAS ANNOYING and that death was WAY TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT.

you rutting trailer trash WHORE.

and the gur family all hooked up with the benitez family over there on the river. hmmm that's TWO hookups with you being all knowing antney's whore of a wife.

wow. you people are fucking SCUM.

christine are you fucking KIDDING ME??

are you and your dimwitted fucking husband REALLY this fucking stupid/?

let's see the broadwater clan black on white crime... now this one... lost her insurance license .. whooo hoooo got the little coke habit .. LIKE ALL OF THEM.

here's davey's old man .. 3809 bay avenue. another family too fucking stupid to see the connection to they and their FAMILY BEING DESTROYED by the tampa firepigs coke trafficking through schools and backpacks and colin breen furthering it.

Yeah .. no connection there ONLY EVERY MOTHERFUCKING ONE OF THEM TRIES TO END UP IN MY GODDAMN HOUSE CHRISTINE AFTER YOU FUCKING FAILED AT IT.

go fuck yourself you trailer trash whore.

Just for the record every time I pull up to that dump I picture it as a trailer with the siding hanging off and a dead dog (CHARLIE POOR CHARLIE) tied to it.


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tampa fire pigs "the anthony delgado terror run"

poker runs

breast cancer walks (lies)

tampa fire rescue runs for fear.

STFU STFU STFU.

No.

YOU STOP MURDERING PEOPLE AND THEIR CHILDREN YOU DUMB FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT.

AND GET THAT WHORE OFF MY FAMILY MEMBER.

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anthony angel

HOW is it that all the kids of your "friends" END UP DEAD???????????????????????

I know you runnin the hit and run gang.

I know I saw you coming out of the permanent homeless shelter before it was thus with a beer.

Yeah, like your wife spanked those kids.

LOL.

Ya got lucky with R, is all and you still had him over at my house kicking shit in and making all kinds of damage....

I KNOW that every person around you has suffered.

And I fucking KNOW that every person which Christine Breen fucks around introducing teenagers to is related to YOU .. and/or you own the property in front of behind or beside OR you are marketing it.

Which puts you square in RICO, harassment and property theft by scurrilous means.

But my friend is a nice lady. And I notice when the last time I talked to her was: Asked her a wee question I did.

And let's see there's moranda, the ry stalking, the h stuff, janie tyler the car cunt (house right next door to her pig of a father, huh?) you all tied up w/michael brian keller, so many scumbags I can't think of, tampa firepigs, car wreck threats, your ugly ho on my couch on cam ... all that sympathy. She's a cold bitch. I hope that pussy is just as cold, brother.

Ya got my namesake over there. Wouldn't YOU like to know where that name came from??

LOL.

I got the many stories for the willing ears.

I swear to god ... I am going to make it known in laid out fact.

Sure and you're related to half the scumbags on the 13th.. um duh. Or they profiting from the crack houses you help these faggots run.

And murders fall to your doorway.

And you all buddied w/ the mike roberts murder and such.

SAME NAME EVEN.

Wow.

I don't care if anything actually ever gets done.

I just like to watch the rot from the inside as you motherfuckers get your guts dragged through the public eye.

Keep your faggot ass punks away from me and mine.

Such a line of whores and you still just a small time hood.

Ceviche.

tell your whore to lick the crack of my ass.

And you still owe me sixteen hundred dollars you non taxpaying piece of shit.

GIMME MY MONEY.

I had more to add to this but some FINE day I will shove it up your ass instead.

Nice company you keep.

You raising your grandchildren to be thugs, too??

Fuck. Short man syndrome has been the bain of the world. GROW UP. You had some potential and instead you fell to the lowest denominator.

Saturday, August 28, 2010

keller tome and southtowner

I dunno ... did you think you could fool me??

L O L.


Anyway .... your lil crack dealers w/metro ministries sure have that fag factor down.

I swear to GOD I saw some LEGIT homeless people over to the metro ministries crack dealership.

FIRST TIME FOR EVERYTHING .....


where's your boy mumford been???

I like how y'all try to endless cycle in and out.

It's so fucking stupid, dickbreath.

Rolodex went out in like ... I don't even KNOW when.

I'm be jammin yo ass now.

hang on .

Sheraton Riverwalk and Jerry

Wow. Jerry. How'd your stupid boy end up at the Sheraton Riverwalk AT THAT VERY MOMENT??

He's lookin REAL good, by the way.

Wow. What S C U M.

I recall his dealing days at HCC and da YMCA. See, no one has to say a word.. you stupid motherfuckers sink your own ships.
I used to feel sorry for this kid but look what you did to him.

Wow.
I'm so not impressed by you old men.

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Friday, August 27, 2010

Glen Beck is a piece of shit

I don't care if I have his name spelled right or not.

He is what he is.

A piece of shit.

Nothing more needs to be said.

mens rea and the Roberts Family and "partners in crime"

Read Honestly50.

28 arrests in Hillsborough gang sweep
By Danny Valentine, Times Staff Writer In Print: Friday, August 27, 2010
Hillsborough deputies seized 24 weapons as part of  Operation Gang’s Over. As of Thursday, deputies had arrest warrants for 52 people.
[DANNY VALENTINE Times]
TAMPA — On the table in the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office were more than a dozen rifles, shotguns and handguns.
Some of the weapons were powerful enough to penetrate bulletproof vests, others tiny enough to be stuffed in a pocket. One had a long bayonet attached to the end.
All of them belonged to gang members.
Deputies displayed the weapons Thursday while announcing the first day of a countywide gang roundup.
Sheriff's deputies arrested 28 people from various gangs Thursday morning, including members of the Bloods, the Black MOB and the Progressive Village Boys. Deputies have arrest warrants for another 24 people.
"It feels good to get them off the street," sheriff's detective David Evarts said. "It's very satisfying."
The arrests are a result of a seven-month undercover operation called Operation Gang's Over in which undercover deputies bought weapons and drugs.
Most of those arrested in the roundup face drug and weapons charges, with potential sentences ranging from 12 months to 25 years, Evarts said.
In addition to 24 weapons, deputies recovered 6.6 pounds of cocaine, 2.2 pounds of methamphetamine and 1.1 pounds of crack cocaine.
Deputies said the operation happened simultaneously with another anti-gang operation called Operation Under Pressure.
Since June 1, 33 accused players in a multitiered, multimillion-dollar drug ring have been federally indicted in that investigation. Many are members from the Palm River and Progress Village area, deputies said.
Authorities have seized 88 pounds of powder cocaine, 1,200 pounds of marijuana, 1.1 pounds of crack cocaine, $600,000, 13 vehicles, a watercraft, trailers and several firearms.
"The gangs are used to putting fear into the community," Evarts said. "Law enforcement is putting the fear back into the gangs."[Last modified: Aug 26, 2010 10:04 PM] Click here for reuse options! Copyright 2010 St. Petersburg TimesClick here to post a comment
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gman044 wrote:
LOL...Progressive Village Boys...what a bunch of tough little gangstas...typical...promoting their housing project section 8 taxpayer funded lifestyle instead of working to leave it...sho dey mamas are proud.
Aug 26, 2010 9:47 PM
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firefighter64 wrote:
What human waste they are. 20 years for each gun found it should be. Gangs, love to shoot all these cowards.
Aug 26, 2010 10:04 PM
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JuicyPlayer wrote:
Nothing strikes more fear in my heart then the name "Progressive Village Boys". Sounds like the name of a New Wave group.
Aug 26, 2010 10:04 PM
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gman044 wrote:
Maybe they have a tattoo of Flo from the Progressive commercials....or maybe they meet weekly and discuss progressive political ideas....or maybe they are just scum who are not worth the gum on the bottom of my shoe
Aug 26, 2010 10:24 PM
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Greystone1 wrote:
Same story, different day. We've been hearing about the big bust, the big sting operation, etc. etc. etc. for the past forty years at least. The media probably uses form letters, just fill in the numbers and the names. It always sounds like the war has been won... but nothing ever changes.
The war on drugs is the forever war. Doing the same thing over and over, while expecting a different result is the very definition of insanity.
Aug 26, 2010 10:50 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
is james mason STILL snitching?? Guys you ain't been to 610 waters or up the blocks in that neighborhood including the "homeless" center by metro ministries on waters and the neighbors (LOL) who crack deal with them across the street. Obvious gangsters protected by your brothers on the TPD. So until you come haul their ●●●●● out of there and get Jose Tome and his claudio gang members and michael keller and his bunch of gangers .. you're NOT doing your job. Wouldn't take you a week to close THIS bunch. Even KIDS know what they are doing. Hell they use the kids for watchdogs and mules. DUH.
Aug 26, 2010 10:55 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
wow firefighter64, if you feel that way look around in your own dept. Many gangers employed by Tampa and Hillsborough fire rescue. Cops shooting gang signs from their unmarked cars on gandy. You have to see this and I do agree with you. They're sick, disgusting thugs and should be deported to any dump that is rotten w/no food. Don't care if they call themselves "american". It's NOT american to be a gangster and we don't want them here. NO gang tats should be coming over the border and no gang tats should be walking around in america.
Aug 26, 2010 10:59 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
wow firefighter64, if you feel that way look around in your own dept. Many gangers employed by Tampa and Hillsborough fire rescue. Cops shooting gang signs from their unmarked cars on gandy. You have to see this and I do agree with you. They're sick, disgusting thugs and should be deported to any dump that is rotten w/no food. Don't care if they call themselves "american". It's NOT american to be a gangster and we don't want them here. NO gang tats should be coming over the border and no gang tats should be walking around in america.
Aug 26, 2010 10:59 PM
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vennmaster wrote:
greystone1 has it right. When the cops are IN ON IT it will never, ever end. And the cops ARE in on it.
Aug 26, 2010 11:00 PM
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Big Coop Dogg wrote:
"In addition to 24 weapons, deputies recovered 6.6 pounds of cocaine, 2.2 pounds of methamphetamine and 1.1 pounds of crack cocaine". Wow what a bust. I've eaten Burritos that weigh more than a 1.1 pounds. How about this, unless you start busting the people who bring it in, or you legalize drugs, please stop hyping up these small time bust.
Aug 26, 2010 11:05 PM
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MentosMan727 wrote:
Vennmaster, why wont you respond to my comments on your blog? Is the TPD working with local crack dealers to steal more of your pets? Any firemen try to poison you lately? lol. The IRA still planting child porn on your laptop? (a likely story)
You seem to be quite the internet detective my friend. I am quite a good one myself - and I have an advantage, as I am not completely insane.
Aug 26, 2010 11:18 PM
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dyanne219 wrote:
thank you for agreat job done... one by one is okay but this is a good one 28..
Aug 26, 2010 11:32 PM
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Greystone1 wrote:
Are the cops "in on it"? Maybe some are... maybe not. It really doesn't matter.
The war on drugs cannot be won because it is morally/ethically wrong. That's right, folks... we are the bad guys.
If someone wants to get high and is not harming others, then it is wrong to stop them. Stopping them is an initiation of force against them and a violation of their inherent (God given if you like) right to self determination. Force against others, except in defense, is wrong.
If you want to pick up a baseball bat and smack yourself in the head with it, I may think it is stupid, I may try to talk you out of it, but it would be wrong to physically stop you. It's your head.
Victimless crimes are not real crimes and they cannot/should not be stopped.
Aug 27, 2010 1:28 AM
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Meg wrote:
War on drugs is NOT wrong. If someone gets high, they are harming others in multiple ways. If someone without insurance hits themselves in the head with a baseball bat, we'll send you the bill since you won't stop them! Now go ride your motorcycle without a helmet and make sure you're hit by the uninsured driver. We'll see if you still think it's a victimless crime.
Aug 27, 2010 2:31 AM
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Thank you, mentos.
Aug 27, 2010 2:40 AM
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Greystone1 wrote:
"If someone without insurance hits themselves in the head with a baseball bat, we'll send you the bill since you won't stop them!"
I am not responsible for their medical bills and neither are you. Their head, their decision, their action, their responsibility.
Aug 27, 2010 2:48 AM
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Greystone1 wrote:
Let's take your "insurance" logic a step further. Let's say that our oh so benevolent government gives us free national health care.
Then you can say "The government pays for your health care and everything you do affects your health, therefore the government has a right to dictate your every move, every waking moment, from cradle to grave".
Let's see if you then still believe you live in a free country.
Be thankful that our government cannot stop victimless crimes, because a government that is powerful enough to do so would be powerful enough to enslave each and every one of us.
Aug 27, 2010 3:19 AM
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SnapTie wrote:
What's going to happen if Rick Scott becomes governor? He said he would push a bill to randomly drug test welfare and Section 8 housing recipients. I can see available housing coming. I know the projects very well in the bay area. My company has worked with HUD for the past 40 years. Something has to be done it's out of control.
Aug 27, 2010 3:31 AM
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Honestly50 wrote:
On the comments of Gang Members in Tampa PD & Fire Dept, 100% correct, I know them personally. St Pete PD has narcotic detectives that tells certain gangs what to watch out for or if they need to cool their heels for a while. Yet not a single agency will do anything about it. I know I tried with good evidence for them to work with they just let it go on. This story is such small potatoes there are 100's more foot soldiers waiting to take over the territory or already there, never gonna get any better right.
Aug 27, 2010 4:11 AM
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imapopulistnow wrote:
"Progressive Village Boys" - Aren't they the ones who drive a Prius with a rainbow bumper sticker?
Aug 27, 2010 5:06 AM
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liquorbutt wrote:
Nice work cops,but if you can't catch them, and execute them immediately does it really matter, did you make a statement? ....NO
Aug 27, 2010 5:16 AM
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Scott Free wrote:
One gang member was quoted as saying "I diddid do nufin n' s**t".
Aug 27, 2010 5:43 AM
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Scott Free wrote:
Isn't the police force a "gang"? I know I get a little fearful when I get pulled over.... This is a VERY vague article and not very well written. Seems like a fluff piece to keep the masses thinking the police are doing a great job of keeping us safe. As long as their is a "stand your ground" law and I have plenty of my own weapons/ammo (Thank you 2nd ammendment) I don't need the police or the extra bulls**t they cause. Remember when seconds count the police are only minutes away :(
Aug 27, 2010 5:51 AM
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Ace wrote:
Take away their "gats" and their "stash" , and all you have is a bunch of losers who couldn't possibly make it in the real world. They would never be able to hold down a job or get off the system and out of the projects. Some of these "gangsters" are following the horrible examples set by GENERATIONS of the same ilk.
Lock them all up , I say good riddance to bad rubbish.....
Aug 27, 2010 6:01 AM
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cena wrote:
Sad fact is as long as there is a market for illegal drugs and guns, gangs will exist.
Aug 27, 2010 7:27 AM
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Reginald48 wrote:
If anyone has allegations re the PD or FD in their local area, all one has to do is contact the U.S. Marshall's office or the U.S. Attorney's office... Don't let local or state know what's going on... Citizens need to combine their intelligence; weed out these "crooks" within these departments and contact friends who have friends in high places... I'll guarantee you something will be done post-haste as tourism is the leading industry in Florida...
Aug 27, 2010 9:05 AM
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AmericanPride wrote:
@ Greystone1- I think you missed the bus on this one. If someone hits theirself with a bat and doesn't have insurance and the blow to the head knocked some sence into them then they decide to go to the hospital who do you think pays the bill? It's our tax money. If a crash occurs and one party doesn't have insurance again us citizens who do pay in the for of higher rates. Still think there's no "victimless" crimes? Then go talk to the mom and dads who have lost an innocent child due to a stray bullet. Of course the bangers wouldn't have reported the drive-by so I guess, in your opinion, it would have been "victimless". @ ScottFree- Since you "don't need the police" you should start a list of people who feel the same way so when your vehicle is stolen or someone breaks into your home while you're out or an even worse crime is committed against you, you can save tax payers money and not call the police in your time of need.
Aug 27, 2010 10:16 AM
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Honestly50 wrote:
1. Vehicle is stolen report is required by insurance for claim2. House broken report required by insurance for claim3. Car accident report required for insurance claimWhy not just hire $18.00 per hr clerks, Cops never get anything back they have even told friends of mine who did call them that all they were getting was a report to file with insurance the goods were gone.
Other than that I don't call 911 I take care of my own business as well as though that I know well enough we take care of each other & Mother's who get beat & children who get beat or worse. Somebody broke into my house 2 years ago I awoke held them at gunpoint & showed them the door & there were 2 other accomplices outside. I told they them if they wanted to die come on otherwise leave. Then I went back to bed big deal and never even gave a second thought to calling 911. Glow in the dark sights are Fantastic those little white dots are outstanding in total darkness that's how it was when this happened.
Aug 27, 2010 12:21 PM
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Honestly50 wrote:
Just so you know I am not nor ever have been a gang banger I am upper middle class older & white. I leave the gangs alone I don't tell them how to run their business. Never been in jail with no record throughout my life. I'm just old school and we avoid cops or anybody who knows them.
Aug 27, 2010 12:26 PM
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Jada wrote:
"It feels good to get them off the street"
Just how long before they are back on the street? Some do gooder judge will release them just as they do every other criminal in the past few years.
Aug 27, 2010 12:38 PM
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Honestly50 wrote:
It won't even take that today there are 100's of replacement soldiers already taking over the territory. Easy Money is just that or another gang will just no expand into the area for more turf.
Aug 27, 2010 12:43 PM
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Greystone1 wrote:
"AmericanPride wrote: @ Greystone1- I think you missed the bus on this one. If someone hits theirself with a bat and doesn't have insurance and the blow to the head knocked some sence into them then they decide to go to the hospital who do you think pays the bill? It's our tax money. If a crash occurs and one party doesn't have insurance again us citizens who do pay in the for of higher rates."
Yes... that's the way it us, but is that they way it should be? I am old enough to remember when all of these (well meaning?) laws were passed. According to their proponents, the idea was to provide health care to those who couldn't afford it. There was no mention at the time of it being used to dictate their behavior.
It's kinda like making a deal with the devil. Healthcare in exchange for your soul... except the devil might be honest enough to mention the soul part, whereas the politicians are not that honest.
Aug 27, 2010 2:22 PM
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Greystone1 wrote:
"AmericanPride wrote: Then go talk to the mom and dads who have lost an innocent child due to a stray bullet."
If you recall, my scenario involved someone who was getting high and harming nobody, which is not a real crime and should be legal. Shooting kids (or anybody else) is a real crime and should be illegal.
Sober, drunk or high... if you are harming somebody, you belong in jail.
Aug 27, 2010 2:31 PM
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AmericanPride wrote:
@ Honestly50- Your neighbors must be proud.... You had the bad guys at gunpoint and let them go? So they could go down the street and break into your neighbors homes? Hmmmm or maybe the bad guys had already stolen your neighbors stuff which was in the vehicle that the guys you let go, with a strong warning, where driving. You should put yourself on the list with ScottFree. Also before you pay $18hr($37,440yr) to a clerk who can't take a bad guy to jail you should check the average starting salary for officers.(Florida-$35,554) That's based on 2,080hr work year. Ohh don't forget that officers are expected to act even when off-duty, 7 day's a week, 365 days a year. I'd bet your clerk just wouldn't answer the phone at 2 a.m. @ Jada- I agree that they get back on the street to quickly but maybe the little time they spent incarcerated prevented another crime.
Aug 27, 2010 2:31 PM
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AmericanPride wrote:
@ Greystone1- In that same comment you also wrote, "If you want to pick up a baseball bat and smack yourself in the head with it, I may think it is stupid, I may try to talk you out of it, but it would be wrong to physically stop you. It's your head." This is the comment I was referring to because if it cost you, me, or anyone money to take care of that person, then we are all victims.
Aug 27, 2010 2:44 PM
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Greystone1 wrote:
"AmericanPride wrote: @ Jada- I agree that they get back on the street to quickly but maybe the little time they spent incarcerated prevented another crime."
We arrest someone for smoking pot and throw him in jail, where he either becomes violent or he becomes somebody's biatch. We then release him and he can't get a job because he has a record. What are the chances that he will become a productive citizen? Still think we have prevented future crimes?
I'm betting there are people reading this who have smoked the evil weed (or worse) and went on to become productive citizens... all because they didn't get caught. Had they gotten caught they would now be bitter violent career criminals.
Aug 27, 2010 2:46 PM
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Greystone1 wrote:
"AmericanPride wrote: @ Greystone1- In that same comment you also wrote, "If you want to pick up a baseball bat and smack yourself in the head with it, I may think it is stupid, I may try to talk you out of it, but it would be wrong to physically stop you. It's your head." This is the comment I was referring to because if it cost you, me, or anyone money to take care of that person, then we are all victims."
I also wrote that I am not responsible for his medical bills and neither are you. The fact that our government forces us to pay for them does not make us responsible for them in any moral/ethical sense.
There is a huge difference between charity and welfare. In charity the contributions are voluntary and the people being helped are not entitled to that help.
Aug 27, 2010 3:08 PM
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AmericanPride wrote:
Greystone1- Really, everyone "becomes violent or somebody's biatch."???? I'm sure there are plenty of productive citizens who have been to jail or who do drugs. Not an argument there at all. Maybe those citizens grow their own or buy it, who knows. Maybe they bought it from the guy who fired that stray bullet. I'm just stating crimes do have a victim. And btw I agree if someone violates another they should be punished.
Aug 27, 2010 3:14 PM
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Honestly50 wrote:
No "AmericanPride" my neighborhood is quite safe there are a few gang-bangers and they know I don't tolerate them around here from 1 main avenue to the next & from 1 main street to the next. I don't take them and I will stand my ground. They know it and they know I drive around & will run them off. Fists, Knives, Guns I don't care I have seen it all. You just half to stand-up, stand your ground and not cower & call 911 who might show up half n hour later, maybe. The ones I chased off that Night Have Never Been Seen In This Neighborhood Again. So keep talking tough while you hide behind your curtain dialing 911, you drive down my street and you don't look like you belong here, or to slow and I will Stop You & Ask What Are You Doing In My Neighborhood! I have done it for years day or night I sleep light with 2 guns under my pillow ready for anything. I've unfortunately scared some of the new newspaper delivery people at 4am but you never know:) But I'm just a native Floridian!
Aug 27, 2010 3:18 PM
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Greystone1 wrote:
@AmericanPride:
Let's try this one more time. If someone smacks themself in the head and the government forces you to pay for it, are you a victim because he smacked himself or are you a victim because the government made you pay for it? Are you a victim of his actions or are you a victim of the government's actions?
Aug 27, 2010 3:38 PM
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LePetomane wrote:
Bah, now they'll regroup behind bars, wine and dine at the taxpayers expense and plan their next romp in the shadows of political correctness.
Aug 27, 2010 3:50 PM
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palinsfatboobs wrote:
honestly50, hear hear. That avoiding cops is what we all know so when you see the gd gangers cozying up to them and the cops in uniform on duty at the doors of gangsters and the video I have of them guarding mr. tome's crackhouse for him as he faked another robbery on his insurance scam .. ... yeah. Avoiding cops times two these days. GOOD JOB w/protecting your own. I would like to see one of the scum come near me. The one I mentioned as snitch is the nephew of tampa fireman spence roberts a KNOWN arsonist. All city employees. Cept james darrel mason and his prostitute mother of the grandnephew of spence roberts. they like to stay home and deal crack w/shotguns and tote weaponry and crack around and have the charges dropped. They're MONEY MAKERS for the 13th. Straight to the top. Ugly bunch. One of them murdered my sister in cold blood. James D. Mason got my mother. The clock is ticking for them.
Aug 27, 2010 4:03 PM
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palinsfatboobs wrote:
I called this person right here: RAY ALCOVER ... arson investigator. He wanted RIGHT AWAY to meet me 'in secret' and 'get what I had'. LOL Suspect in Tampa arson caught on tape - St. Petersburg Times Mar 24, 2010 ... TAMPA — An arson suspect was caught on camera at a Tampa ... the man on the surveillance images call fire investigators Ray Alcover at (813) ...www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/fire/article1082393.ece - CachedShow more results from www.tampabay.com.... Ol Ray is what you call a coverup artist, peeps. Later on that month a week or so later Ray Alcover or his counterpart did stalk me over at the International Mall. Got the video. You realize that like bautiste in TPD IAD, ray alcover got his job due to death, destruction and FBI investigations into competent, truthful arson investigators. Spence Roberts is bosom buddies with ray vliet ARSON INVESTIGATOR EXTRAORDINAIRE. When I pointed this out publicly Mimi Vliet's facebook page DISAPPEARED. GUILTY MIND. Mens rea.
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