Florida's Flag? Confederate REDUX??
Another of those things that are NOT my imagination because I confirmed it yesterday ....
As recently as five years ago, Florida's not-so-pretty Confederate-leaning flag
DID NOT fly over Tampa and Hillsborough County area schools. NOW, it does. Kinda along the same time that the American flag started being MANDATED in every college classroom. Rampant nationalism. 
This smacks of STATE-ism, and, I may be coining a new phrase. Worse, it smacks of CLOSET HATRED.
Oddly enough, as much as I have grown to respect most of the members of Florida Progressive Coalition, the fact they used the ugly Florida flag as a symbol nearly caused me to brush them off. I DO NOT LIKE the Florida flag and I think it has a very Confederate-like appearance.
Thought it was just me. Because, as you know while I'm not being nearly murdered, WITH CHILDREN;by friends of Sheriff Gee on the Interstate (as someone else in my family WAS carwrecked and maybe several someones, already) I have friends of every possible stripe. I'm perfectly aware that there are some AWESOME people who truly feel connected by deep prideful history to the Confederate flag and they do not use it as a hate symbol, or because they don't like dark people or for any other putrid reason. They LOVE IT like I love the American flag. I DO NOT love the American flag to exclusion of common sense. I love it because it's beautiful. I'd burn that piece of cloth right in front of Bush if given the chance. No problem. This is America; that's MY RIGHT.
Okay, covered all of that AND pissed Bill Nelson off. Great sentence, eh?
Anyway, I'm VERY TROUBLED by the fact that the Florida flag is hoisted over Tampa's schools, currently and that motivated me to find out why it bothers me.
Because, ABSOLUTELY there are those in Tampa and in Florida and in GA AL TN NC SC etc... who DO use that Confederate flag in a HATE WAR that some of them perpetrate to keep some of us from looking at them too hard. Believing that we GIVE A FUCK what they do provided they're not trying to murder us and our family 22 out of 24 hours of the day. EVERY DAY. Not sure what they do with the other two hours. Presumably have meetings at which they make each other feel taller or ballsier. Something. Because dumping paraplegics, running women and children over with your dumptrucks and breaking the arms of tiny women and yanking other small women around by their hair can't be leaving one feeling very manly OR womanly ....
SO, I did some research in to what smacks of similarity to the Confederate flag and damnnit ONCE AGAIN, it's NOT JUST ME.
Enough people think this way that it made it into Wiki. (and yes, noted I do not consider wiki the best source)
As recently as five years ago, Florida's not-so-pretty Confederate-leaning flag
DID NOT fly over Tampa and Hillsborough County area schools. NOW, it does. Kinda along the same time that the American flag started being MANDATED in every college classroom. Rampant nationalism. This smacks of STATE-ism, and, I may be coining a new phrase. Worse, it smacks of CLOSET HATRED.
Oddly enough, as much as I have grown to respect most of the members of Florida Progressive Coalition, the fact they used the ugly Florida flag as a symbol nearly caused me to brush them off. I DO NOT LIKE the Florida flag and I think it has a very Confederate-like appearance.
Thought it was just me. Because, as you know while I'm not being nearly murdered, WITH CHILDREN;by friends of Sheriff Gee on the Interstate (as someone else in my family WAS carwrecked and maybe several someones, already) I have friends of every possible stripe. I'm perfectly aware that there are some AWESOME people who truly feel connected by deep prideful history to the Confederate flag and they do not use it as a hate symbol, or because they don't like dark people or for any other putrid reason. They LOVE IT like I love the American flag. I DO NOT love the American flag to exclusion of common sense. I love it because it's beautiful. I'd burn that piece of cloth right in front of Bush if given the chance. No problem. This is America; that's MY RIGHT.
Okay, covered all of that AND pissed Bill Nelson off. Great sentence, eh?
Anyway, I'm VERY TROUBLED by the fact that the Florida flag is hoisted over Tampa's schools, currently and that motivated me to find out why it bothers me.
Because, ABSOLUTELY there are those in Tampa and in Florida and in GA AL TN NC SC etc... who DO use that Confederate flag in a HATE WAR that some of them perpetrate to keep some of us from looking at them too hard. Believing that we GIVE A FUCK what they do provided they're not trying to murder us and our family 22 out of 24 hours of the day. EVERY DAY. Not sure what they do with the other two hours. Presumably have meetings at which they make each other feel taller or ballsier. Something. Because dumping paraplegics, running women and children over with your dumptrucks and breaking the arms of tiny women and yanking other small women around by their hair can't be leaving one feeling very manly OR womanly ....
SO, I did some research in to what smacks of similarity to the Confederate flag and damnnit ONCE AGAIN, it's NOT JUST ME.
Enough people think this way that it made it into Wiki. (and yes, noted I do not consider wiki the best source)
The Confederate States of America used several flags during its existence from 1861 to 1865. Since the end of the American Civil War, personal and official use of Confederate flags, and of flags derived from these, has continued under considerable controversy. Currently the state flags of Mississippi and Georgia draw heavily upon Confederate flag designs, and those of Arkansas, Alabama, Florida and Tennessee arguably incorporate certain elements from these designs.
Contents[hide]
1 National flags
1.1 First national flag ("the Stars and Bars")
1.2 Second national flag ("the Stainless Banner")
1.3 1863 ensign
1.4 Third National Flag
2 Other flags
2.1 The Battle Flag
2.2 The Naval Jacks
3 After the War
4 The Confederate Flag
5 Controversy
5.1 Displaying the flag
5.1.1 Display at the South Carolina capitol
5.2 Use in State Flags
5.2.1 Georgia
5.2.2 Mississippi
5.3 Use on vehicular license plates
6 See also
7 Notes
8 References
9 External links
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Charlie and Jeb just LERVE posing in front of that big ''St. Andrew's Cross" which looks SUSPICIOUSLY confederate AND what in THE HELL does the St Andrew's Cross have to do with Florida????
Well, apparently: NOTHING. It's just more bullshit to bring the Confederate flag BACK OUT OF THE BASEMENTS AND GARAGES and, by god get it BACK ON THOSE PICKUP TRUCKS. (sorry, I used to have a pickup truck, too and don't pretend you don't know what I mean)
it has been erroneously described since the latter part of the 19th century as a cross, specifically a Saint Andrew's Cross. This folk legend sprang from the memoirs of an aging Confederate officer published in 1893. According to Coski, the Saint Andrew's Cross had no special place in Southern iconography at the time, and if Miles had not been eager to conciliate the Southern Jews his flag would have used the traditional Latin, Saint George's Cross. A colonel named James B. Walton submitted a battle flag design essentially identical to Miles' except with an upright Saint George's cross, but Beauregard chose the diagonal cross design.[16]
Specifically, the St. Andrew's Cross is a white saltire on a blue field, as in the national flag of Scotland. The St. Patrick's Cross, as in the state flag of Alabama, is a red saltire on a white field. The Army of Northern Virginia battle flag has a blue saltire on a red field and is, therefore, neither the St. Andrew's nor the St. Patrick's Cross but a saltire as in the proposed but unadopted Second National flag.
Miles' flag, and all the flag designs up to that point, were rectangular ("oblong") in shape. General Johnston suggested making it square instead. Johnston also specified the various sizes to be used by different types of military units. Beauregard agreed to this and soon prototypes were made by Hetty Cary and her sister and cousin. On November 28, 1861, the Army of Northern Virginia (which was then called the Army of the Potomac) assembled and formally received the first set of new battle flags. Beauregard gave a speech encouraging the soldiers to treat this new flag with honor and that it must never be surrendered. Many soldiers wrote home about the ceremony and the impression the flag had upon them, the "fighting colors" boosting morale after the confusion of the first Battle of Bull Run. From that point on, the battle flag only grew in its identification with the Confederacy and the South in general.[17]
Just doesn't seem very healthy TO ME to be flying this heavily Confederate-like symbol over the schools of our beloved children.
I HAVE to assume this was JEB's idea BUT, I've seen MUCH MORE evidence of it in the VERY SHORT time that Charlie has been governor.
AND, I have to wonder. WHY is Charlie ALMOST ALWAYS pictified with theConfederate Florida flag close by??
I don't remember that with any other governor.
Is there yet ANOTHER agenda afoot here??
Let's see, George Bush divides us off from the world.
His brother JEbby divides Florida OFF from the country !
Now, we're seeing RAMPANT STATE-ism.
How long will it be before the BORDER CHECK from state to state ??
Maybe that's what will finally happen at all those weigh-stations you see along the highways.
I'm telling you, it's freaky to drive by schools and see all the flags flying ....
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Contents[hide]
1 National flags
1.1 First national flag ("the Stars and Bars")
1.2 Second national flag ("the Stainless Banner")
1.3 1863 ensign
1.4 Third National Flag
2 Other flags
2.1 The Battle Flag
2.2 The Naval Jacks
3 After the War
4 The Confederate Flag
5 Controversy
5.1 Displaying the flag
5.1.1 Display at the South Carolina capitol
5.2 Use in State Flags
5.2.1 Georgia
5.2.2 Mississippi
5.3 Use on vehicular license plates
6 See also
7 Notes
8 References
9 External links
//
Charlie and Jeb just LERVE posing in front of that big ''St. Andrew's Cross" which looks SUSPICIOUSLY confederate AND what in THE HELL does the St Andrew's Cross have to do with Florida????
Well, apparently: NOTHING. It's just more bullshit to bring the Confederate flag BACK OUT OF THE BASEMENTS AND GARAGES and, by god get it BACK ON THOSE PICKUP TRUCKS. (sorry, I used to have a pickup truck, too and don't pretend you don't know what I mean)
it has been erroneously described since the latter part of the 19th century as a cross, specifically a Saint Andrew's Cross. This folk legend sprang from the memoirs of an aging Confederate officer published in 1893. According to Coski, the Saint Andrew's Cross had no special place in Southern iconography at the time, and if Miles had not been eager to conciliate the Southern Jews his flag would have used the traditional Latin, Saint George's Cross. A colonel named James B. Walton submitted a battle flag design essentially identical to Miles' except with an upright Saint George's cross, but Beauregard chose the diagonal cross design.[16]
Specifically, the St. Andrew's Cross is a white saltire on a blue field, as in the national flag of Scotland. The St. Patrick's Cross, as in the state flag of Alabama, is a red saltire on a white field. The Army of Northern Virginia battle flag has a blue saltire on a red field and is, therefore, neither the St. Andrew's nor the St. Patrick's Cross but a saltire as in the proposed but unadopted Second National flag.
Miles' flag, and all the flag designs up to that point, were rectangular ("oblong") in shape. General Johnston suggested making it square instead. Johnston also specified the various sizes to be used by different types of military units. Beauregard agreed to this and soon prototypes were made by Hetty Cary and her sister and cousin. On November 28, 1861, the Army of Northern Virginia (which was then called the Army of the Potomac) assembled and formally received the first set of new battle flags. Beauregard gave a speech encouraging the soldiers to treat this new flag with honor and that it must never be surrendered. Many soldiers wrote home about the ceremony and the impression the flag had upon them, the "fighting colors" boosting morale after the confusion of the first Battle of Bull Run. From that point on, the battle flag only grew in its identification with the Confederacy and the South in general.[17]
Just doesn't seem very healthy TO ME to be flying this heavily Confederate-like symbol over the schools of our beloved children.
I HAVE to assume this was JEB's idea BUT, I've seen MUCH MORE evidence of it in the VERY SHORT time that Charlie has been governor.
AND, I have to wonder. WHY is Charlie ALMOST ALWAYS pictified with the
I don't remember that with any other governor.
Is there yet ANOTHER agenda afoot here??
Let's see, George Bush divides us off from the world.
His brother JEbby divides Florida OFF from the country !
Now, we're seeing RAMPANT STATE-ism.
How long will it be before the BORDER CHECK from state to state ??
Maybe that's what will finally happen at all those weigh-stations you see along the highways.
I'm telling you, it's freaky to drive by schools and see all the flags flying ....
********************************************************
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Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr.
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ADD ON: The Sunroof, teenage, bomb, blast, gunshot, LIES pertaining to the MURDER of Benazir Bhutto.
A successful person is one who can lay a firm foundation with the bricks that others throw at him or her. David Brinkley
Get your ARREST BUSH Tshirt HERE!!
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The heart has it's reasons which reason knows nothing of.
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We know truth, not only by reason, but also by the heart.
Blaise Pascal
Here's the last 25 messages on the Impeach Cheney matter
No Excuses : Email any rep in the country. Go ahead. They have to answer you; it's what you pay them for. Compel them to uphold their oath to protect the Constitution of the United States of America.
The lie was dead
And damned, and truth stood up instead.
Robert Browning
ANOTHER BUSH LIE
Also TEXT the word "TODAY" to 30644 to become part of the John Edwards campaign. Do it. He actually had rainbow bumper stickers. Kinda thoughtful.
I've saved some sunlight
if you should ever need
a place away from darkness
where your mind can feed.
from Rod McKuen's "I've Saved The Summer"
Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power.
We have guided missiles and misguided men.
Martin Luther King, Jr. (1929-1968)
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