Tampa Firemen work with Insurance Co. to GOUGE you

There's an interesting discussion pertaining to the above linked story from the Tampa Trib.

Valerie Kalfrin puts it THUS: Fees For Emergency Services Could Rescue Revenue

give me a break. Even a tiny little bit of reporting and research would show what this really is.

This is a transparent effort to pump up the profits and the pensions for the Tampa Fire Dept. (by MILLIONS)Ask them where the Hillsborough County first responder dollars from Homeland Insecurity went ! (for the cameras along the interstate 75.) Ask them how this will benefit their pension fund !! (same way the Tampa Police Dept benefits from writing tickets) The insurance companies make contributions to the pension funds according to the # of tickets written and according to the # of incidents the Firemen have to bill for.

Are you getting it yet??

This is corruption. This is corruption being condoned by the Tampa Tribune. AND, there is NO public hearing scheduled. Are you believing THIS????

This is what Pam Iorio and the Tampa firefighters saved for her second term. Do you SERIOUSLY believe they just came up with this proposal in the last few days?? LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then, we're stuck with it forever in a continuing cycle of bald-faced GREED.

At the very least tell the whole story. I thank Ms. Kalfrin for including the quotes from the insurance rep. But, please tell the whole story.

Please.

Did anyone check LoCicero's claim that 40% of the accidents are not local residents?? Ask him where he got those statistics ! Let's see 'em. What difference does that MAKE, anyway???? Is it more ethical to charge an out of stater?? How long before the fire dept starts buying junker cars and wrecking in to out-of-staters on purpose just to get more money??? I mean this is MILLIONS of dollars we are talking.

I'm walking proof of what 'first responders' will do for money and for property. What they have done around myself and my loved ones and my home is unconscionable.

It's sad that we have to depend on an insurance company executive for the TRUTH: (with apologies for those honest members of same)

While Nick LoCicero says:He estimates (??) about 40 percent or more of the city's traffic crashes involve nonresidents, based on U.S. Census Bureau statistics that show Tampa's population swells from 303,000 in the evening to 447,498 during the day.
"Essentially, it's a user fee," Locicero said. "A community's water taxes pay for the water main. You pay for the water consumed." (oh my god, this is like apples and watermelons next do I have to pay them EXTRA when I interrupt their lunches?????)

I love the part where he decides that if you live out of the city and work in the city you cause more wrecks. And 447 is not 40% more than 303 and his citing this statistic in making his 'estimate' is .... well, it's ridiculous.

I loathe to be treated as an idiot. They're so used to getting exactly what they want after getting the mayor elected that they think they'll get the rubber stamp on this, too. BUT, I'm not the only one speaking up. I hope more of you do before the firemen all jump on there, all 700 and state their beliefs that they need to GET MO money out of us. Sell your lexus. Give part of your salary back you're such committed community members.

To Johnson, the insurance agents' representative, fiscal responsibility is not so clear-cut.
An insurance company that takes a hit on such a fee might spread the cost among all policyholders in the state or surcharge those in a particular area, he said. Still other premiums might already reflect such a fee, he said.
Johnson didn't think it was proper for any municipality to pass its costs onto insurance-company policyholders. "Are they using policyholder premiums to subsidize local taxes?" he said.

Wow, an honest insurance man. I'm impressed.

Contact the Tampa City Council. DEMAND that they do not allow the firefighters to jack us. Demand a public hearing.

It wouldn't hurt to ask nicely that they stop using county Fire Dept. vehicles to stalk women and children and see how much money they save thus.

And, too, it's the bad timing: They're not batting too well right now. They've got me exposing them, women being left to die, firefighters breaking in to cell phone stores with crowbars, murder trials upcoming, Tampa firefighters 'working here' but living in North Carolina .....

why even bother with the facade???

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The City of Tampa and it's assorted city-sanctioned gang members need this property because it's in the middle of land they intend to develop for gambling facilities.
LaS VEgas here in Tampa : Ta-Vegas or Tam-Gas.
But it's going to cost YOU a helluva lot of money as they defend their criminal acts in federal court due to what they are doing to my family and I in
the process of attempting to steal our home.

Terrorist,"Cause" and Gang Stalking Perpetrated by Tampa Firemen and other Firemen -- revealed and written about.
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IMPEACHMENT having Brunch with us

Five Congress Members for Impeachment

By David Swanson

Congresswoman Yvette Clark (D., NY) has joined Congress Members Jan Schakowsky, William Lacy Clay, Albert Wynn, and Dennis Kucinich in cosponsoring Articles of Impeachment against Vice President Dick Cheney (H. Res. 333). For details, see: http://impeachcheney.org/

The list of state Democratic Parties that have passed resolutions urging impeachment of Bush and Cheney has just grown to 15. Meanwhile, 11 state legislatures have introduced such resolutions, which have now been passed by at least 74 cities and towns and a growing list of labor unions and other organizations. These resolutions are all listed at http://impeachpac.org/resolutions-list

He's (read THEY) going to come up with another 'surprise' if we don't get him out of there.

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Brought to you LIVE from THE TAMPA NAIL HOUSE ... : Proud members of the drive-by media (just like Thomas Paine, father of America)

... located in the midtown desired redevelopment center just one block from the river.
The City of Tampa and it's assorted city-sanctioned gang members need this property because it's in the middle of land they intend to develop for gambling facilities.
LaS VEgas here in Tampa : Ta-Vegas or Tam-Gas.
But it's going to cost YOU a helluva lot of money as they defend their criminal acts in federal court due to what they are doing to my family and I in
the process of attempting to steal our home.

Terrorist,"Cause" and Gang Stalking Perpetrated by Tampa Firemen and other Firemen -- revealed and written about.
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Giuliani Campaign ARRESTS REPORTER Lepacek

From American Wisdom

Wow, he's all over it lately.
Scroll down to the bottom of his article for the link to the arrest which happened in Massachusetts.

Also, check out this guy: The Knight Shift. He's got an excellent story on this and also an incident between himself and the current resident of the whitehouse, george bush who demanded that the police 'haul all those assholes out of here'. (independent journalists) god forbid you ask a question in America.

Check out this strutter for Giuliani having this CNN-credentialed reporter arrested. So CONFIDENT is he in his street-lifestyle-high-up-newyork-gangster-backup that he basically just has this reporter arrested for asking a hard question. The ILLEGAL question involves the statement that Giuliani made to Peter Jennings concerning the fact that he had been told about the explosion of the World Trade Center before it happened. Not --- I finally remember what it was Peter Jennings said that put him on a hit-list. There's been so much and my memory is .... well, it's FULL. (see the third video, it's about eight seconds long where he takes a BIG JAB at the intelligence community. buh bye peter. We here at Vox were inconsolable for days, we loved us some Peter Jennings)





Here's the video to which the reporter refers to in the scene where he is quickly surrounded by police and taken out of the building (they discussed criminal trespass and espionage charges) What country IS THIS people? Our reporters are being murdered, reporters are being ARRESTED for asking questions ---- WTF?? What about this is different from a communist country??






Now, did you notice that he not only says they were notified of the collapse earlier BUT he also says that NO ONE had ANY idea that planes would be used as weapons???? LOL LOL LOL -- that was a subject in a much-discussed Tom Clancy book "Executive Orders published in 1996. The opening chapter spills that a plane crashed in to the capitol and took out the government. I can just see one of them now, reading it at their desk and the little bad seed took root. Because THAT is what Sept. 11, 2001 has always looked like to me. Some big 'powerful' boy wrecking all his tinker toys. And, oh, MURDERING THOUSANDS of innocent people. I've watched boys do the same things with buildings they build all the time. Take all day to put the legos together and then ohhh the joy in smashing them to bits and starting over. In a nutshell Tom Clancy PLUS a few asshole boys in charge = Sept. 11, 2001/Iraq.

***Brief aside: Has anyone else noticed that the tiny man in my white house has said that the US will not attack two different countries in the last two days?? Tuesday he said we would not attack Iran. Today he said we would not attack Russia. Hey, friends and thinking people; Russia is already on the ground here, baby. There's a guy who stalks me quite regularly who is Russian. Nice-looking guy wants to take me to lunch. Metro dude. Sometimes ya just have to smile, yknow?? He's a nice-looking guy made of ice and such. And others I am acquainted with: oddly enough none of them are very nice people. Or not so oddly, perhaps. And the Russian people are usually so lovely and stalwart for life.***

Here's Peter Jennings: (saying what needs to be said every day about the 'intelligence' community.



AND, because poking around youtube is ... educational, here's some more confronting Rudy with the truth and the sad results: Be sure to watch this. His facial expression never changes. The mask.




It might be a Sept. 11, 2001 day. I can't believe the stuff I am finding there that I never knew existed. Wow.

Oh AND here's the deal that should answer ALL the questions about building seven. LMAO !! Con Edison had an office in the bottom.> They're on the site of EVERY explosion before it occurs. When the doctor ALLEGEDLY blew himself up just recently with gas??, Con Edison was on the scene an hour prior. I read this shit all the time. Con. Edison. You notice that now the property is for sale for EIGHT MILLION and that the chances of a property coming vacant there are between slim and NONE. This is exactly what is going on around my property. Exactly. They need it and they have used every nefarious way they can think of to get it. Now, I ask you, WHY were more questions not asked about this??? I have phone records of a guy calling and threatening to blow my 'motherfuckin' house up.(not my words) Threats to burn it down. Clearly this is status quo among developers, eh???



Finally: Peter Jennings signing off ... he would have caught on and they took him out. Are we beginning to take note of WHO is rising to power??? Check the names in front of you. Check the subject of this post. WHO??? And who is dropping dead around them as we struggle to reveal the truth? The questions WERE FOR the American people.



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Bush Business (two states moving to convene grand juries)
Email your Congressman
Court of Impeachment and War Crimes

Brought to you LIVE from THE TAMPA NAIL HOUSE ... : Proud members of the drive-by media (just like Thomas Paine, father of America)

... located in the midtown desired redevelopment center just one block from the river.
The City of Tampa and it's assorted city-sanctioned gang members need this property because it's in the middle of land they intend to develop for gambling facilities.
LaS VEgas here in Tampa : Ta-Vegas or Tam-Gas.
But it's going to cost YOU a helluva lot of money as they defend their criminal acts in federal court due to what they are doing to my family and I in
the process of attempting to steal our home.

Terrorist,"Cause" and Gang Stalking Perpetrated by Tampa Firemen and other Firemen -- revealed and written about.
Stop Organized Stalking
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