St Pete Times so FULL OF SHIT

I've been to Baywalk about 45 MAZILLION TIMES. Never spent a dime except for at the movies and one other place. Twice. Twenty bucks in all.

WHY???

Because it's BUILT ON SKULLS AND BONES. Probably with the cooperation of the same gang who is doing their murderous, criminal attempt for most of the property in Tampa. The other of the property is already owned by 'loyal members of the deathstar regime' otherwise known as SOME LONG TERM TAMPA RESIDENTS.

They eminent domain'd people out of there. They've arrested the homeless from there. The cops are there to do everything BUT protect the war protesters on Saturday night.

This short-sighted attempt at fear no doubt was purposeful because check out the neo-nazis insisting on ENTRY FEES, more cops, more security, walls, fuck what else??

It's rather ludicrous. They can't out and out SAY *YET* : No black people, no protesters and no homeless and NO POOR but since we all know that Baywalk is for sale ... you DID know that, right? They want to do it right this time.

A 'new' private company will come in .. new security and etc .. and REALLY TIGHTEN UP. Those aren't old golfers you see walking around in those weird clothes. Those are OLD NAZIS. Watch for it.

In fact, watch for a whole buncha shit to be attempted to be swept past us under cover of the chaos of the BHUTTO MURDER.

by Lynn 12/27/07 12:36 PM
Overby's comment is ridiculous. Is she saying people aren't expected to monitor their behavior on property? Is she saying the police aren't needed outside of the BayWalk property? Put a wall, metal detectors/searches at entry gates/fee to enter.
by William 12/27/07 12:33 PM
It would appear that the mayor and city council don't have the courage to deal with the crime or homeless problem. Judging by the respect our "leaders" show for City Hall property, why protect Baywalk or anywhere else?
by Mel 12/27/07 12:25 PM
Puh-Lease! There are no crips or bloods in St Pete. No one here is organized enough to be in a gang. These are simply children with probably no home training and nothing to do. So all you ignorant and clueless people please get a grip!
by Matt 12/27/07 12:19 PM
Anything less than an extreme crack down on the situation at Baywalk would be less than acceptable.
by BAB 12/27/07 11:25 AM
Wake up police, city officials, parents - it takes all of us. I would love a safe downtown - it will take a new mindset. Good luck with the re-development of the Trop if you can't make a few blocks near Bay Walk safe. How can we ALL help?
by Al 12/27/07 11:18 AM
Baywalk should try something that's worked elsewhere. Play nothing but music by Glenn Miller, Perry Como, Pat Boone and Rosemary Clooney on their outdoor sound system. Same effect as turning on the kitchen lights and seeing roaches scurry for cover.
by Perry 12/27/07 11:04 AM
I just feel sick about this. Part of me says lets just put in metal detectors and 50 armed guards. Perhaps the city should consider closing off streets around Baywalk and establishing a security perimeter, but call it a pedestrian zone.
by Rob 12/27/07 10:59 AM
A, you have the problem right there in your response! Nothing for them to do. The parents or parent does nothing to involve their child into anything productive! Parents give you kids some direction or they will blaze their own path.
by KD 12/27/07 10:52 AM
Who wants to live downtown if it is becoming over run with gang activity? This city is going to get a bad reputation quick if the police don't keep these kids inline... There is no easy solution except constant police presence... CONSTANT presence.
by Bob 12/27/07 10:47 AM
A handful of pencil necks in white uniforms is "amply staffed"? Give me a break. The Simon company figured out how to deal with loitering trouble-makers (dress code) Sembler needs to spend the money and do the same. By the way, Baywalk is for sale
by Tim 12/27/07 10:44 AM
Don't these losers have somewhere else to hang out? I don't get it why these teenage losers hang out at a movie theatre w/o any desire of attending a movie either. If they want to act like elementary kids, them treat them the same.. What losers!
by A 12/27/07 10:00 AM
I like how the opening paragraphs lump the police pepper spraying a group of fighting people in with attempted murder with a firearms, to show the pandemonium.
by Viking 12/27/07 09:55 AM
I feel sorry for the owners and business people who put up their hard earned money to pay high rents there and try and make a buck or two. Then you have the Crips and Blood PUNKS come down and start riots and wreck the place.ACLU and NAACP to blame.
by IKim 12/27/07 09:48 AM
I remember when on First Ave/31 St. Theater had people talking during the movie we stopped going. But this is rich people area. It will be cleaned up. Put a theater in the south side area.
by Pete 12/27/07 09:44 AM
Police presence near Baywalk is weak at best, and officers need to be more aggressive in enforcement. My lazst trip to this crime den...esepcially the dangerous and unpatrolled parking garage. Hello Parkside Movies!
by Jimmy 12/27/07 08:49 AM
If they are not buying anyhting,they shouldnt be allowed to loiter.i live 8 blocks from baywalk yet go to pinellas park for a dinner/movie. Baywalk has been taken over by 18 yr old thugs who do nothing for this city!Parents of these kids have no clue
by Linda 12/27/07 08:44 AM
I am very concerned about this. My husband and ten year old daughter were there as it happened. They were leaving a movie. She was very upset when they came home. My husband even said he didn't feel safe. Not good entertainment, if you ask me.
by Lisa 12/27/07 08:39 AM
The same thing happened in Atlanta's Buckhead. When ghetto thugs invade what is normally a nice area business patrons and civilized citizens stay home. This is the beginning of the end for Baywalk.
by James 12/27/07 08:16 AM
The parents are also responsible as well. Wake up people! we have serious problems with some of youth.
by Marty S. 12/27/07 07:58 AM
Hey Commissioner Foster - If illegal open pot smoking offends you then may I suggest you not attend the MLK parade in three weeks. Excellant spin that this all occurred "off" Baywalk property - Yeah, that makes it better. SPPD is an ill staffed joke
by Michael 12/27/07 07:54 AM
Where are the police in St. Petersburg? Nearly a quarter on the annual city budget goes for Police and Fire and we can't control teenagers having love squabbles. I agree with Foster -- why go to Baywalk and get shot at or have to jostle w/ teens?
by Drew 12/27/07 07:19 AM
More and more young people are being raised without fathers and this is what you get. A lack of respect for each other and authority. More security will need to be visible and troublemakers dealt with before people start going to baywalk at night.
by A 12/27/07 06:29 AM
problems on the rest of the community. Baywalk creates a hazardous situation and should be liable for it's probably irresponsibility in managing that situation. I do not enjoy Baywalk after dark because of kids hanging around with nothing to do.
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