Monday, January 17, 2011

Firemen in Training at Jefferson High


Would a future firefighter do this?

Yanking someone into the bathroom and raping them?

Sounds about right.

Two against one??

Sounds about right.

(my experience is they're happier with three against one OR MORE than three)

MONEY that they're related to a fireman.

Any takers?


I'll SEE your double down and raise you FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND ..... or more.

The comments disappeared in like an hour or LESS. And then st pete times closed them (LOL) But here they are ....

Oldest First Newest First Top Rated
StPeteJim Jan 17, 2011 12:27 PM About 1 hour ago
From that stupid description are we to assume one is black and one is white, or two blacks with light and dark complexions, or two whites with dark and light complexions. Any chance they are Chinese? How the heck is any perp going to be ID'd by anyone but the victim with these descriptions?
Reply Report Abuse 4 8
deezo Jan 17, 2011 12:35 PM About 1 hour ago
You're not meant to see someone walking down the street and see he fits this description, know he is the "perp" and "ID" him . The descriptions are more aimed at people who have reason to suspect an acquaintance. Then the description can support or contradict their suspicion. It's just one piece of the puzzle. No description can be comprehensive enough that you could recognize the person from it. Even police composite sketches can't do that.
Reply Report Abuse 5 4
2smart4you Jan 17, 2011 1:43 PM About 4 minutes ago
since WHEN?? WTF? I have never heard of anything similar to what you are saying. That's OUTRAGEOUS.
Reply Report Abuse 1 1
LOL Al Jan 17, 2011 12:27 PM About 1 hour ago
I imagine that the St. Pete times is reporting all of the facts they were given by the TPD. It's probably the TPD that doesn't want to upset anyone by naming a race. Either that, or conversely, they just assume that everyone else has already assumed the race of these fellows. The lack of information is not the Times' fault.
Reply Report Abuse 1 6
deezo Jan 17, 2011 1:04 PM About 43 minutes ago
I agree 100 percent, Al, but to be fair, Jim didn't say he blamed the Times for the inadequate description. And on the issue of race, it's possible they were of mixed race and the victim -- who was going through the most traumatic experience of her life -- couldn't tell for sure. In any case, you're right, both the police and the Times would want to provide the most complete description they could without being inaccurate, so there's no reason we should think they are withholding details.
Reply Report Abuse 1 2
croixian1 Jan 17, 2011 1:07 PM About 40 minutes ago
Blacks with light skin? Whites with tans? Asian? Hispanic? Canadian with Polish roots and a sunburn? WTH?
Reply Report Abuse 2 3
oldcootpinellas Jan 17, 2011 1:20 PM About 27 minutes ago
Happened Tuesday noon and reported Thursday? Evidence lost?It is possible this is a cover up for what really happened.
Reply Report Abuse 1 1
deezo Jan 17, 2011 1:34 PM About 13 minutes ago
That's quite a stretch, old coot. More likely the young victim was so traumatized or so ashamed she couldn't bring her self to tell her mother right away. A lot of rapes do not get reported at all for that reason, even when the victim is an adult.
Reply Report Abuse 2 1
gwm56 Jan 17, 2011 1:36 PM About 11 minutes ago
You betcha, it was the guy on the grassy knoll.
Reply Report Abuse 1 2
2smart4you Jan 17, 2011 1:44 PM About 3 minutes ago
COVER UP. That's the firefighter training school as you likely know. Quite likely these are young future firemen. Perfect for Tampa !
Reply Report Abuse 1 0
gwm56 Jan 17, 2011 1:33 PM About 14 minutes ago
OK, it has now come to PC perp descriptions. I feel safer already.
Reply Report Abuse 1 3
Dr_Dug Jan 17, 2011 1:35 PM About 12 minutes ago
It's Obamas fault...
Reply Report Abuse 0 1
deezo Jan 17, 2011 1:40 PM About 7 minutes ago
May I please ask that people who comment here keep in mind that it quite likely the that the victim and her family will see the comments? Flippant and accusatory posts can only exacerbate their anguish during a traumatic time. There's no reason we can't share opinions without being disrespectful toward the victim..
Reply Report Abuse 1 1
Dude Sizzler Jan 17, 2011 1:42 PM About 5 minutes ago
white, black, indian, asian??? some description that is, good luck finding them from that report.
Reply Report Abuse 1 1
2smart4you Jan 17, 2011 1:47 PM Less than a minute ago
Young lady: SNITCH THEM OUT. Don't let the scuzzy tampa police dissuade you. Even the allegedly female tampa police are on the side of the rapist. THIS IS TRUE as evidenced by Bobby Ward (UNREPORTED as in REFUSED TO TAKE REPORT because the rapist was a military officer on macdill) and the gasparilla RAPE and the COVERED UP UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA RAPE the same day> Not to mention the HCC DORM RAPE ... Tampa is run by PIGS. Is it any wonder the young firemen believe they can yank what they want into a nasty bathroom and do what they want to it?? Surprised the dickless wonders can manage it. I'll go make another user name.
Reply Report Abuse 0 0
2smart4you Jan 17, 2011 1:48 PM Less than a minute ago
Maybe it was a gang initiation and lord knows tampa is run by gangs and is a gang haven with tampa police detectives shooting gang signs from their unmarked cars and Roberto Bautiste TPD IAD with his four green fields gang connections.
Report Abuse

SO there must be PLENTY OF TRUTH TO THIS ONE ... wait and see unless they're already on their way back up to dirty jerz or new york.

3 things about Tampa/Hillsborough FIre Pigs

a. they're SLOW learners (must be all that crack)

b. they travel in threes like the musketeers ... more like the fuck-a-teers

c. they look over their shoulder to see if they are being video'd.

Questions this raises:

a. Why does Tampa/Hillsborough consistently hire STUPID THUGS who fuck with and stalk people? Must be TOP DOWN, huh Pam?

b. What are they afraid of? Short man syndrome at work.

c. For good reason but WHY would that happen.


I am watching you swirl the drain.

Ask Mr. Keller about his future. The one he spends in prison with his collaborators in the real estate theft ring you folks have engineered. Because I can WAY MORE than prove it. Isn't that right, meth boy?

WHY do the few decent firefighters tolerate this shit??? NO MONEY is worth making yourself appear to be a pussy. It's like I observed with the masons and that time they actually broke into another firefighter's house because he didn't "act right." And then got all miffed when he reported them.

Boys will be boys?

No, I think it's something FAR MORE sinister in that they intimidate anyone decent who slips over the threshold into their greasy frat boy house.

The women ARE JUST AS BAD. The women paramedics ARE WORSE.

Although the downtown ho and the station 11 ho and the gandy ho are the ones who really caught my eye with their nastiness.

Come ON, "ladies"... what's the REAL reason you there?

Irish Central WHAT A RAG !!

Wow, as a proud Irishman with a WELSH GRAM I can say these Irish Central (AKA STORMFRONT NEOCONS) are beamed up nutcases. (Hey I notice stormfront hid a bunch of their shamrocks and replaced them with union type flags from my last and ONLY previous visit to their disgusting WHITE SITE)

And YAHOOO always promoting some looney tunes writing from "irish central" Don't label yourself irish, asshole you're certainly NOT the center of MY Irishness.

This guy Ed Farman compares a disgruntled soldier/psychiatrist (FORT HOOD) doing what seems to come naturally to those hassled in the workplace these days to a guy who came to a quiet street corner and killed strangers: A federal judge, AN INNOCENT CHILD, THREE senior citizens, a young Congressional aide and grievously wounded a young Congress woman trying harder than most congress critters to serve her district.

Excerpt from the Wired post on the FORT HOOD MURDERER:
"Before he allegedly killed a dozen and wounded 31 more at Ft. Hood, Maj. Nidal Hasan may have gone online to praise suicide bombers.

“If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory,” a commenter named “NidalHasan” wrote on this document about “Martydom in Islam.”

What's that remind you of COLIN AND ROBERT??? Yup. It reminds me of you, the Irish Republican Army sneak tactics and your whore of a wife who sneaks around fucking with teenagers.

And sneaking into families to destroy them.

But back to lunatic Ed ... what's his name:


Before they handed you the Internet they should have gotten you through middle school.


You embarrass the Irish.

Colin. Who dragged the cool Irish people to the RIGHT????

Yeah, you faux Irishmen.

Maybe he can come do some elementary coverage of your dump down there in murder central.

Hey Ed, lemme know if any loser in your family ever manages to slither up to like counter-server at McDonald's and someone sets a crosshairs .... I mean um a surveyor's mark on their lil booth. Lemme know if that's OK with you.

Blanks and Charges

Okay, tell me if this sounds mercenary. I'm leaving out names and identities for now, and even some words to protect those who frankly don't deserve protection but having never been a RAT (like some) I just don't feel good about spilling people's filthy sides of their lives onto the WWW...

However -- (you knew this was coming, right??) -- I'm willing to disclose same for a fee. In fact, I'm going to disclose some of this in a book which will definitely be for sale very soon but if you'd like to know if your name or some similar aspect that identifies your smarmy and illegal acts towards me and my family have been mentioned I'd be happy to negotiate a fee with you. For the record, save your pennies if I've known you longer than thirty years. Out of respect for you and your family I'll leave your names out. Out of respect for you and your family I have remained silent. Apparently this same respect was not inbred in you. That's a pity but you and yours are safe with me. The ones who took it upon themselves to do your bidding against an innocent family are wide open just like they've left MY family wide open. Herewith I refer to my extended family and network many of whom are currently suffering at your hands. Be on notice.

Bush McCain Huggy Bears 2008

Bush McCain Huggy Bears 2008
Blast Off's Huggy Bear Pic Challenge

A Nation in DISTRESS

A Nation in DISTRESS


In my living room watching;
but I am not laughing ....

..... risk something, take back what's yours
say something that you know they might attack you for
cause I'm sick of being treated like I have before ....
Meanwhile, the leader just talks away
Stuttering and mumbling for nightly news to replay
And the rest of the world watching at the end of the day

In their living room laughing like,

"what did he say?"

Fight the Good Fight

" .... courage is humankind's cardinal virtue, because ''it makes all other virtues possible."
Reverend William Sloane Coffin

......" And I dare you to ask for a lot, I dare you to hold fast to your ideals and to expound them as publicly and as fearlessly as Martin Luther King and Bill Coffin and Betty Friedan and those dozens of grandmothers arrested a few weeks ago for protesting the war in Iraq."

Francine du Plessix Gray


MainSTREAMMedia=Bush Propaganda Machine

vox dictionary
Never Mistake Kindness for Weakness
I prefer to be a dreamer among the humblest, with visions to be realized, than lord among those without dreams and desires. Kahlil Gibran
Every man dies.

Not every man really lives.

In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends...... Martin Luther King, Jr.

Vox Talk

Contrary to popular belief:

Patience is NOT a virtue.

It is concentrated strength.
"The pioneers of a warless world are the young men (and women) who refuse military service."

- Albert Einstein
"Only those who dare to fail miserably can achieve greatly" – Robert Kennedy
"Those who profess to favor freedom and yet deprecate agitation…want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightening. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters…. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will." Frederick Douglass, 1857
Tis nobler to lose honor to save the lives of men than it is to gain honor by taking them.

~David Borenstein

You cannot win a War on Terrorism. It’s like having a war on jealousy.

~David Cross

Blog Roll Me ~~~


Fight Child Protective Services False Accusations

Fighting Child Protective Services False Accusations

About Me

I was born a citizen of the world and have remained such but along with that: I'm a long time Tampa resident. Mixed bag at that as I've seen life here from nearly all angles and while somewhere in there I became slightly indoctrinated, I'm not too proud of the way people have taken over this city and run it with an iron fist for all but some. This city is working hard on creating just two classes. Thems and them dont's and they are working hard to shove some families down into the gutter for reasons known only to them. Some might be as petty as jealousy, some might be politically motivated, some might just be stupid and all are wrong. I want to believe we can get better but that would entail some stuff that I have no control over. I only can control myself and my reactions to what occurs.

Blog Archive

Ybor City Stogie

Ybor City Stogie

Voice of Freedom

Voice of Freedom
Joe Redner's site

Disclaimer and Legal-ese

To Whom it may concern: The contents of this web-page reflect the opinions and experiences of the authors. No contents here are fodder for legal use or purposes. This is a fiction or non-fiction story unfolding and as such all references are held for editing and any references to persons or entities living or dead are merely coincidental and should not be construed as proof or material for legal purposes.


You (the reader and copier) accept all risks and responsibility for losses, damages, costs and other consequences resulting directly or indirectly from using this site and any information or material available from it.

To the maximum permitted by law, OWNER excludes all liability to any person arising directly or indirectly from using this site and any information or material available from it.

In other words: read it, enjoy it ... copy it, paste it, distribute it widely.

Don't construe it as anything but what it is: the opinion and experiences of a novelist on the way ... anything that IS true can be proven. Anything that's not true --- well, that's my opinion and yours, isn't it?

My blog is worth 27,092.28.
How much is your blog worth?

My apologies

Addendum: Please check back to older posts as I am constantly updating them as I have more time to delve into the interesting subjects. I thought that comments were automatically enabled. I apologize for the inability to comment. I was able to comment but that's because I'm the author (duh) Now, everyone can comment. It's a free for all. Hey, as well, if you'd like to publish to this blog it'd be cool if you were like-minded but if you're not that's okay too -- just email me and I'll add your email to the list of publishers to this blog. Tampas Back Door Ways (OR)